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txmatt wrote:

FightinAggieCHL wrote:If he were shooting anti-matter bullets, people in China would have died from the gunshot.

Actually, if it were anti-matter, the moment the anti-matter had come into contact with actual matter (ie, anything) it would have set of a chain reaction, rearranging all of the molecules on the planet into a massive ball of gamma radiation and antihydrogen. Thus eliminating all life, and the planet as we know it.

For these reasons, it would be tough to fire a bullet made out of anti-matter out of a gun.

Um, I don't know what you're shooting but a 230 gr. bullet in my .45 has a mass energy equivalent of 1.34E15 J or about a third of a megaton of TNT. Not exactly an end of the world thing, but certainly non-trivial. I'm not even going to touch the gamma death ball thing as that makes no sense whatsoever. Not that an anitmatter bullet makes sense, but aside from some bullet handling and delivery issues, it is at least physical.

As to the topic at hand, I had a great experience with my CHL class. No one else showed up, so it was just the instructor and myself, so all the dumb questions were mine (and no one else was there to be annoyed by my new to me 1911 jamming repeatedly-at least I knew how to safely clear it, though). The three months it took to get my CHL after turning in the paper work gave me plenty of time to work out the feeding/ejection issues.

When one teeny, tiny molecule of anti-matter came into contact with a teeny, tiny molecule of matter, both particles would cease to exist and HUGE amounts of energy would be released.

BrassMonkey wrote:How would a fully computerized classroom presentation be received? I'm not talking about powerpoint.

Something you instructor types would be interested in? Free of course, I have some time in the evenings lately to woro on something.

This would make it entertaining for students and hopefully give more time for Q&A, you know, good stuff...

We can use powerpoint ad overheads, etc., but we can only use a small percentage of the time on videos and such. Is that what you mean, where the instructor lets the computer do the teaching?

Stupid wrote:
In my stupid opinion, a CHL class that does not include gun safety and how to handle handguns is totally useless.

Firearms storage and safety, as well as marksmanship and range safety are required segments of instruction

Half of of the class did not appear to even have fired a gun in their life. Many guns came out of the box with rusty, and many jammed during firing session, none knew how to clear jams. It's very disturbing to see they passed the test.

It shouldn't be. You won't be depending on them to protect you, you will be depending on yourself. The CHL course of fire is simply a test of a persons ability to hit the target and demonstrate BASIC safety. It is not a self-defense course, or tactical course.

The class was horrible. Basically it included the instructor reading the booklet out loud and me trying to stay awake - i finished reading long before he did. Rarely he explained anything.

I went there to learn something, but came out with nothing except knowing that I could get my CHL.

That is bad. Where do you live? Perhaps one of our forum's outstanding instructors would allow you to "audit" a class so you can make up what you missed.

screename wrote:One reason why these incidents took so long to resolve was that the instructor said he was not allowed to physically touch the weapon during the test.

That is not a state OR DPS rule. In fact, DPS troopers on the line routinely handle intructors guns on the line when they malfunction.

seamusTX wrote:

Dave01 wrote:I'm not sure if an instructor is allowed to fail someone if they techincally pass the written and range portion, ...

Aninstructor that I happen to know says he will fail someone for a range safety violation regardless of how accurately they shoot.

- Jim

Not exactly. I will not allow a person to finish the qualification course if they commit a gross safety violation. No finish=no passing score=no TR100.

however, if I allow then to finish and they score a 175 or better I have to sign the TR100. I can write DPS and they will consider my complaint.

texasag93 wrote:when you press the slide from the front of a 1911 style pistol you cannot fire it.

I think that I am saying that correctly.

WITH AN UNLOADED 1911, in the cocked position, press your palm firmly at the front of the barrel and slide. Then try to pull the trigger. The hammer will not fall.

So if you "safety" press a loaded 1911 and do it wrong, you shoot your palm.

I just tried it with my XD9 and the same thing.


I am not a gun smith and do not play one on TV. I did not sleep in a Holiday Inn last night.

texasag

That is not the proper way to do that. Rule #2 is to never allow the muzzle to cover anything you re not willing to destroy.

If one wants to check that functionality first remove the magazine and inspect the chamber to be sure the weapon is empty. Then check AGAIN!. Next, point the weapon in a safe direction, that being one where if the gun were to discharge there be be no injury to any person, and minimal property damage. The you should press the slide back by gripping it from underneath, thumb on one side and fingers on the other. Grip and slide it back slightly, then press the trigger.

That said, I see no reason to do this.

texasag93 wrote:
was he press safetying a 1911?

What is that?

Dave01 wrote: I would have thought pointing your weapon at the instructor would have been an automatic fail, but I guess not.

Dave

What kind of safety briefing did the instructor give before going into the range? What did he tell you was required, how things were going to happen, and what the rules were?

tx-skydiver wrote:Interesting...and yes, somewhat scary to know that just anyone can have one in their car legally. Are there any rules about informing an officer like we are required to do?

Nope

tx-skydiver wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:

tx-skydiver wrote:I've had classes where some had no idea how to use or handle a handgun...and passed. My fear is that the way Texas is passing CHL students is parallel with the way schools are passing students who can't read or write and an innocent person will get killed for it. Just because you pay for a license does not mean you are entitled to carry.

My belief is that everyone must be mandated to take a firearm safety and shooting course as a prerequisite to obtaining a CHL. OR at the very minimum, pass a "safety test" in firearm handling at the beginning of class and if you fail, you must wait 30 days or take a course before going to a CHL class again.

I know that is very liberal sounding and I am a very conservative person, but I do want to protect the innocent citizens as well as making sure that the anti-gunners have no ammo against CHL.

Sorry for the rant.

Texas allows unlicensed carry of handguns in vehicles now, and unlicensed carry of long guns everywhere. What about those people?

Unlicensed but UNLOADED with ammo separated, correct? Correct me if I'm wrong but it is only legal to carry back and forth to/from range or across 3 counties, right?

Texas Law never makes a distinction whatsoever regarding the loaded condition of a gun. Texas law does not restrict the carry of long guns, except at places listed in PC 46.03 like schools, etc.

Ranges, specifically, are not listed anywhere in the law regarding carry of firearms, and there has never been any law allowing or restricting carry across 3 counties.

Today, Texas allows a person to carry a handgun in their vehicle without a CHL. The handgun can be accessible to the driver and loaded.

tx-skydiver wrote:I've had classes where some had no idea how to use or handle a handgun...and passed. My fear is that the way Texas is passing CHL students is parallel with the way schools are passing students who can't read or write and an innocent person will get killed for it. Just because you pay for a license does not mean you are entitled to carry.

My belief is that everyone must be mandated to take a firearm safety and shooting course as a prerequisite to obtaining a CHL. OR at the very minimum, pass a "safety test" in firearm handling at the beginning of class and if you fail, you must wait 30 days or take a course before going to a CHL class again.

I know that is very liberal sounding and I am a very conservative person, but I do want to protect the innocent citizens as well as making sure that the anti-gunners have no ammo against CHL.

Sorry for the rant.

Texas allows unlicensed carry of handguns in vehicles now, and unlicensed carry of long guns everywhere. What about those people?

As an instructor who has had MANY students in MANY classes I have observed the following;

1) there are a lot of good people who care about their families, themselves and others, who have minimal experience with guns, know nothing about tactics, but just want to learn and obtain that CHL. Some may never carry, some seldom, others sometimes and a few always.

2) an occasional Armchair commando who thinks he is uber tactical, experienced. Usually full of stories and "what if" questions

3) some experienced people who realize that is is always a different way to do things

4) a slight few who, for whatever reason, are nervous, unsure, have a hard time "getting it", etc. Often these people have poor gun handling skills, and seldom have ever had ANY formal training.

All of these people have a God given given right, protected by the second amendment to our constitution, to possess and bear firearms. If a person is dangerous or reckless with that firearm, it is my legal and moral obligation as an instructor to do my level best to help that person.

I have never had a person in a class who I thought was "bad" or evil. I am a pretty good shot, and have considerable training. Every school I attend has students less capable, trained, etc., than me. I am also very humbled in those classes by observing the students who are at such a level that they blow me away. I try to keep in mind that to them, I may be the loser who can't do it as well as them.

Shoot safely!