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wgoforth wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

stroguy wrote:Hi-Point, they are as about as ugly as they come.

Hmm... They certainly are ugly, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a working 9mm pistol for a lower price. I've heard they have rough triggers, which would probably work against someone who'd never fired a gun before.

You got me thinking about new guns that are merely inexpensive or on sale, though. Looking through CDNN's complete catalog there are several sub-$400, non-subcombact, 9mm pistols:

Sig

• P250 Compact for $340
• SP2022 for $370

Taurus

• PT709 Slim Compact for $300
• PT709 Slim Compact Bi-Tone for $320

American Tactical (never heard of them)

• 92C Centurion for $300
• HP9 for $330
• FS9 for $280
• CS9 for $280

(I'm not affiliated with CDNN or anything, I just like looking through their catalogs.)

And those of you mentioning cheaper new guns are correct...they are out there. I am thinking used as they are broken in. Rather not having them with break-in issues trying to qualify. Not to mention usually easier to rack once broken in. Gotten numerous elderly folks who could barely rack a slide.

Used guns, unless you know the seller, are a crapshoot at best. A used gun may be broken down or a lemon, with a new gun you get to break it in yourself and you know that it's well maintained.

Academy's everyday low price for an S&W Sigma 9mm is $299.99. The SIG Pro 2022 is $399.99 I have one that I use for a loner. If you shop carefully you should be able to buy a new gun with a warranty for what you will pay for a beater. Some other guns that can be had for less than $400.00 are several models of Taurus, the S&W SD and the Ruger P95. Bud's Gun Shop has the Stainless P95 for $327.00. You asked for an ugly gun well the P95 is about as homely a gun there is. They are built like a tank and, some folks rate them right up there with the Glock, another not very pretty gun, in reliability.

I have taken the gun off my hip and loaned it to a student who was having gun troubles. Give them a quality experience with some quality firearms. Your students will thank you and a satisfied customer is the best advertising there is.