If someone at Walmart asks to see your LTC, just do the following:
1. Act startled and alarmed
2. Back away excitedly and ask "Who are you and what do you want?"
3. Look down an empty aisle, point and then ask with wide-eyes "Did...did you see them?"
4. Look down at your gun, touch the grips and say "My grips glow when Orcs are near!"
5. Run out frantically shouting "You shall not pass!"
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- Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:28 am
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- Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:13 pm
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Re: walmart asking for chl
Man...I understand the need for a law abiding society...but do ya ever think that sometimes there's just too many stinkin' laws? 
- Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:20 pm
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Re: walmart asking for chl
I would hope that I can have a balanced view of different angles. I am LTC. I have been in law enforcement. I also own my own business.
Do I want everyone on earth...including the government....dictating to me who I can and cannot have inside my business? The right to the control of my business premises is very important to me...and as an American it should be important to you, too. Would you deprive me of that right? If so then I would suspect you are a Socialist. As an ex-police officer I could understand the analogy of not being able to stop a driver just for the purpose of seeing if they have a drivers license. A person is innocent until proven guilty (which is a principle that is being disregarded these days)...an officer cannot stop unless there is something that arouses suspicion...behavior that leads to probable cause that a law is being violated or has been violated. Open carry, being legal, does not automatically indicate suspicious behavior. So a law enforcement officer detaining someone for the purpose of seeing a LTC is on shaky ground unless the law itself specifically grants the officer the right to do it. But if you are in someone else's business....in someone else's property...a person in control of that property OR someone under their supervision CAN ask. Civilians are not bound by the "probable cause" legality that LE officers are. If you are not going to respect the rights of others then you are disqualified to whine about your rights not being respected. Also, in my LTC training they spoke about being the "grown up" or the "adult" in all situations that may arise. If someone asks to see my LTC it may be because of their paranoia and/or liberal mindset...immature thinking. In that situation I must step up and be the adult...the grown up. I should not get offended....I should not belly-ache and whine...but rather smile and say something like "After all the expense and work it took to get this thing I will be glad to show it to you!"
Do I want everyone on earth...including the government....dictating to me who I can and cannot have inside my business? The right to the control of my business premises is very important to me...and as an American it should be important to you, too. Would you deprive me of that right? If so then I would suspect you are a Socialist. As an ex-police officer I could understand the analogy of not being able to stop a driver just for the purpose of seeing if they have a drivers license. A person is innocent until proven guilty (which is a principle that is being disregarded these days)...an officer cannot stop unless there is something that arouses suspicion...behavior that leads to probable cause that a law is being violated or has been violated. Open carry, being legal, does not automatically indicate suspicious behavior. So a law enforcement officer detaining someone for the purpose of seeing a LTC is on shaky ground unless the law itself specifically grants the officer the right to do it. But if you are in someone else's business....in someone else's property...a person in control of that property OR someone under their supervision CAN ask. Civilians are not bound by the "probable cause" legality that LE officers are. If you are not going to respect the rights of others then you are disqualified to whine about your rights not being respected. Also, in my LTC training they spoke about being the "grown up" or the "adult" in all situations that may arise. If someone asks to see my LTC it may be because of their paranoia and/or liberal mindset...immature thinking. In that situation I must step up and be the adult...the grown up. I should not get offended....I should not belly-ache and whine...but rather smile and say something like "After all the expense and work it took to get this thing I will be glad to show it to you!"