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by montgomery
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:11 am
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: MN: Self defense shooting trial built on gun control bumper sticker
Replies: 18
Views: 14017

Re: MN: Self defense shooting trial built on gun control bumper sticker

03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:55 am
montgomery wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:40 am
philip964 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:01 am http://www.startribune.com/rochester-mu ... 470306113/

Its hard to find all the facts in this self defense murder trial in one news article. There was a mistrial from a hung jury recently, so the self defense shooter has a chance of getting off.

In Minnesota you have a duty to retreat. The DA apparently decided to pursue murder charges when he saw the bumper sticker on the shooters car that said "Gun Control is hitting your target". The self defense shooter has a CHL.

This also has religious overtones as the dead man is Muslim the shooter is Christian.

Our self defense shooter was on his way to officiate at a sporting event, when the self defense shooter stopped to see if everyone was ok after witnessing a car accident. The driver of the car in the accident then put the car in reverse and backed into the referee's car. The driver was apparently high on drugs. He and another man said they were going to to "jump" the referee and get his gun. He said he shot in self defense, but did not retreat. He called 911 and waited for the police to arrive.
Like Massad Ayoob teaches in his Armed Citizen Rules of Engagement: dump the machismo, and be sure you can articulate why you did what you did.

That bumper sticker may cost this guy his freedom - and it most certainly cost him $250,000 in lawyer and expert witness fees to explain to the jury it does not imply intent.
In this day of internet communication, I would even be careful of what I posted. Both on forums and on social media. Then you have those really cool signs people put on the gate or front door warning of the owner shooting you. You may prevail in the end but the cost can wipe you out.
:iagree: completely. #truth
by montgomery
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: MN: Self defense shooting trial built on gun control bumper sticker
Replies: 18
Views: 14017

Re: MN: Self defense shooting trial built on gun control bumper sticker

philip964 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:01 am http://www.startribune.com/rochester-mu ... 470306113/

Its hard to find all the facts in this self defense murder trial in one news article. There was a mistrial from a hung jury recently, so the self defense shooter has a chance of getting off.

In Minnesota you have a duty to retreat. The DA apparently decided to pursue murder charges when he saw the bumper sticker on the shooters car that said "Gun Control is hitting your target". The self defense shooter has a CHL.

This also has religious overtones as the dead man is Muslim the shooter is Christian.

Our self defense shooter was on his way to officiate at a sporting event, when the self defense shooter stopped to see if everyone was ok after witnessing a car accident. The driver of the car in the accident then put the car in reverse and backed into the referee's car. The driver was apparently high on drugs. He and another man said they were going to to "jump" the referee and get his gun. He said he shot in self defense, but did not retreat. He called 911 and waited for the police to arrive.
Like Massad Ayoob teaches in his Armed Citizen Rules of Engagement: dump the machismo, and be sure you can articulate why you did what you did.

That bumper sticker may cost this guy his freedom - and it most certainly cost him $250,000 in lawyer and expert witness fees to explain to the jury it does not imply intent.

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