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by Jago668
Mon May 09, 2022 9:06 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: Humble woman charged with murder after claiming self defense after a homeless woman aggressively approached
Replies: 27
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Re: TX: Humble woman charged with murder after claiming self defense after a homeless woman aggressively approached

Ruark wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:05 pm I think OC is a great self defense tool in many situations. Just keep in mind that when you spray a BG and he steps back or falls to the ground with his hands over his eyes, it's OVER. If you kick or strike him then, you'll be charged with assault, or worse.

Fox Labs 5.3 Cone Mist is the strongest stuff out there - it's been described as "like a spoonful of fire ants in each eye." There is a lot of junk OC on the market.

Never carry it on your key ring, a popular option. Good way to get it knocked out of your hand, along with your keys, across a dark parking lot.

The "Stream" is NOT the best kind for self defense. Yes, the cops use it, BUT that's because they often have to use OC in crowded conditions, or inside a police car.

Don't wave it out in front of you, like "get away, or I'll spray you with this....." The BG will be more likely to dodge it or grab it and use it on you. To the contrary, he shouldn't even know you have it, until it's too late.
Just a heads up on OC spray for those that have never messed with it. You will get backwash. I don't care what kind you use, if you use it in an enclosed space you're going to know it. All the delivery methods have pros and cons. You'll get the least range and most dispersion and blowback with a mist, but when it works it's the most likely to get inhaled which is more likely to debilitate than getting on skin or in the eyes. Stream gets less blowback, better range, but harder to get anyone to inhale it. Foam has decent range, least blowback, but also least likely to actually stop someone as it's basically impossible to get someone to inhale it and harder to get into the eyes (also can be scooped off and thrown back at you, ask some guys that were at TDCJ when they used foam). If I was going to carry it, I'd also carry some sudacon wipes.

Also just general fyi. It is going to affect everyone differently. So don't go expecting to spray someone and have them instantly stopped. Might take half a minute to start working on them. I figure most people here will have a realistic expectation of what it will do. Just in case someone that doesn't rolls across this thread.

Ruark's advice is solid. Don't wave it around. Deploy it and move.

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