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Flightmare wrote:

dale blanker wrote:

oohrah wrote:I am a Viet Nam combat vet, and when the hippies were burning the flag, I supported that 1A right, and I continue to support those same 1A rights today. Vote, vote with your wallet, vote with your participation. But you can't restrict others 1A rights without endangering your own.

Yeah, those hippies were denouncing an administration that got us into and kept us in a war that didn't make sense. I think John Kerry, obviously a patriot, was among those protesters. What a great system we have!

But frankly, I don't see the NFL players kneeling as any big deal. A sitting or turned-back or fist up would be something else, but kneeling - showing the highest form of respect - really?

In Kaepernick's own words, his protest was not a form of respect;

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... nal-anthem

If you genuinely believe that he is doing it out of respect, you are fooling yourself.

Flightmare, you and I are not quite in sync about positions of respect. I was referring to the current issue with some NFL players and others about kneeling but your article was about sitting. Itn't it funny how "little things mean alot"?

In the 49ers' final 2016 preseason game on September 1, 2016, Kaepernick opted to kneel during the U.S. national anthem rather than sit as he did in their previous games. He explained his decision to switch was an attempt to show more respect to former and current U.S. military members while still protesting during the anthem after having a conversation with former NFL player and U.S. military veteran Nate Boyer. After the September 2016 police shootings of Terence Crutcher and Keith Lamont Scott, Kaepernick commented publicly on the shootings saying, "this is a perfect example of what this is about."

1911 10MM wrote:

dale blanker wrote:

oohrah wrote:I am a Viet Nam combat vet, and when the hippies were burning the flag, I supported that 1A right, and I continue to support those same 1A rights today. Vote, vote with your wallet, vote with your participation. But you can't restrict others 1A rights without endangering your own.

Yeah, those hippies were denouncing an administration that got us into and kept us in a war that didn't make sense. I think John Kerry, obviously a patriot, was among those protesters. What a great system we have!

But frankly, I don't see the NFL players kneeling as any big deal. A sitting or turned-back or fist up would be something else, but kneeling - showing the highest form of respect - really?

If you think it is a form of respect I have some ocean front property in Arizona I would like to sell you, as others have said 1st A rights do not extend to employees. NFL players are employees of the teams they play for and as such should follow the rules their employer sets. Is it the fault of the player their employees refuse to punish those who break the rules, no. If the teams and NFL continue to allow this to happen then I for one will not watch. This Veteran is boycotting the NFL.

Keep your Arizone property and your twisted ideas about respect. Individualism is what makes this country great. Ever notice how precisely respectful people are where oppression is the norm? Try this:
http://www.startribune.com/what-do-the- ... 448509043/

Think.

oohrah wrote:I am a Viet Nam combat vet, and when the hippies were burning the flag, I supported that 1A right, and I continue to support those same 1A rights today. Vote, vote with your wallet, vote with your participation. But you can't restrict others 1A rights without endangering your own.

Yeah, those hippies were denouncing an administration that got us into and kept us in a war that didn't make sense. I think John Kerry, obviously a patriot, was among those protesters. What a great system we have!

But frankly, I don't see the NFL players kneeling as any big deal. A sitting or turned-back or fist up would be something else, but kneeling - showing the highest form of respect - really?