carlson1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:52 pmThis is just a test! A test to see who would lay down their rights.Prior to Covid-19 people with the flu, TB, HIV, meningitis, hepatitis etc run around with the ability to spread it to those they interact with yet their movement is not restricted by the government. I see this in the same way but you’re in the medical field so you may see it differently.
No ride shares, no gatherings of 50 or more, churches must close, restaurants must close, bars. must close, etc... and let us just see who will stand up for their rights and say, “NO!”
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- Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:04 pm
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- Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:50 am
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seph wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:35 amThey are things our governments can and cannot do. Period.flechero wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:40 amWow, your foil hat is tight.Aggie_engr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:05 am
If you think the government has any interest in the least bit of your health and safety, my friend I would look up the definition of naive. With that being said, I agree with other members that we should be using our ability to think for ourselves and make rational decisions, not giving in to the media induced panic rhetoric that has caused most normal Americans to fall into full blown hysteria.
Your post is a handbook of how freedom loving Americans should approach situations like that which we find ourselves in lately.
I'm not giving in to the media, one of my good friends runs the ER at a major hospital... and several others are Dr's who are all in crisis mode right now, preparing for a worst case scenario.
I hope you and the other selfish and self important "freedom loving Americans" enjoy your dinners and a movie out, in exchange for endangering a segment of the population. You guys are coming off like a couple of spoiled 3 year olds... or OCT activists.
Our governments is supposed to honor and uphold our Constitution at all times. They cannot just uphold it most of the time, and say oh, it's an emergency and put it on pause. Once done, it will always be done and soon we will always live in some kind of emergency. If we continue on this path, (people panicking / freaking out and our governments keeping stripping our liberties), I fear that the fall of our country as we know it is coming soon. That's what I fear over covid-19.
We, as Americans, can choose to reduce our activities outside our homes based on our risk to us and our family. But, we cannot be forced to as we have liberties that our governments CANNOT take away. Hearing mayors, county commissioners, and governors forcing people to close their business, forcing people not to leaving their homes, and not to peacefully assembly is a very scary thing to see now. Much more scary than an over hyped virus.
It is a fact that most everyone will get covid-19. It is just a matter of when. Even locking every american in their home will stop it spreading. China did just that and it still spread like wild fire and still is spreading. If they were able to control it, all of their factories would be back open. It is also a fact that mostly everyone who has it will recover just fine with no hospitalization. A very small percentage of people will require hospitalization, and an even smaller percent will die. Catching covad-19 is not a death penalty!
What is also scary is seeing people on this forum (which is to educate and inform people about one of our most important liberties) ready to lay down and allow other very important liberties to be taken away.
Liberty once lost is lost forever.
I'm done with this thread and I'll see everyone in the future. We can hang out here and complain about what we surrendered during our panic, while comparing our two weeks of suffering though the symptoms of covid-19 (hint: fever and being bedridden due to being weak, oh and a cough), while pledging allegiance to the USSA (United Socialist States Of America) as we are required to.
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Just look at what we gave up right after 9-11. Have we gotten the 4th Amendment back? Have we got the 2nd back after the panic in the 1920's over mobsters and high profile bank robbers who killed far less people than the media portrayed? Times of panic gives the government the leverage to chip away or take large chunks of our rights with very little push back.
- Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:57 am
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What concerns me more are the big steps being taken that implement socialism. Companies forced to provide services, wages guaranteed, unilateral control given to governors and mayors... and the Republicans are going right along with it and pouring cash on top to boot.
I want to see the repercussions of not following the gathering recommendations/bans. I really don't think the people will go for a full "Outbreak" type quarantine or martial law. I think if it comes to implementing martial law across the country, the country is already lost.
Maybe the government could say that by potentially spreading disease, you are not peaceably assembling. I don't know but the way the Constitution is stepped on every day by the elected, I don't see them caring too much about violating the people any more. They will use the virus excuse and move the pendulum closer to socialism. After all, its for the children.Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I want to see the repercussions of not following the gathering recommendations/bans. I really don't think the people will go for a full "Outbreak" type quarantine or martial law. I think if it comes to implementing martial law across the country, the country is already lost.