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To me it is the law and it is as simple as that, I have always been taught that if you don't think a law is fair then work to change it. This law has been in effect since 1968 through many changes in government and has yet to be changed. Now I am only 51 years old but I have known my whole adult life that if I was ever convicted of a felony I would lose several of my constitutional rights. To me the punishment is the only deterrent to most of these people committing crimes.

You can slice it and dice it any way you want, if you don't want to enforce the laws that are the law of the land then you are ok with felony crimes being committed. The Supreme Court has allowed for the felon to petition the convicting state as long as it is not a federal felony to have these rights restored. This is the remedy for your reasoning Charles. Otherwise it is black and white to me you do the crime you do the time, which for felons includes not only loss of gun rights, loss of voting rights and in many cases the ability to visit many forgein countries.

I might not be as highly educated as many of you on here, and you can call me naive but I actually believe that the judicial system works most of the time . This being said, I think this is a healthy discussion and I do believe that the, what I consider, excessive crime in this country today is the result of so many people thinking "oh I am only going to get a slap on the wrist and they won't make me serve all that time and no way they will really punish me with all those lose of rights."

Yes I know people change but it is up to them to prove it to the state and if that cost them some money then so be it.

Several people advocating for someone who commits a crime to not serve their punishment, to me, that means that you are ok with that crime if you don't want them to be punished.

It amazing to me how many of you are ok with committing crime. Most of your arguments boil down to just that.

If you can't do the time don't do the crime. And yes the time includes for the rest of your life if it was a felony.

Crazy beliefs here.