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by BCGlocker
Sun May 22, 2016 8:27 am
Forum: Other States
Topic: PA: CHL Badge holder charged in murder at church
Replies: 37
Views: 14972

Re: CHL Badge holder charged in murder at church

Abraham wrote:BCGlocker,

You stated: "You can't introduce a firearm (use of deadly force) into a fist fight."

If you're a young, big adult and you start punching a much smaller, elderly man, do you consider that a fist fight?

If so, I guess the smaller man is just supposed to tolerate being punched out...and perhaps die.

I don't consider such a scenario a fist fight.

Yes, fists were part of the equation, but in my opinion, they could be deadly weapons.

I think it could come under the header of deadly assault by the younger, bigger, stronger man.

Agree or disagree with such a scenario?
"Proportionality" is just one of the consideration for use as a defense from prosecution. Others including disparity of force (old vs young, one vs. multiple assailants, female vs male..etc). If there is no immediate substantial risk of death or serious injury to you or another, deadly force should not be introduced.
by BCGlocker
Sun May 22, 2016 7:09 am
Forum: Other States
Topic: PA: CHL Badge holder charged in murder at church
Replies: 37
Views: 14972

Re: CHL Badge holder charged in murder at church

The problem is "Proportionality". You can't introduce a firearm (use of deadly force) into a fist fight. Once again, we see CCWers fail to MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).

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