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by ELB
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:51 am
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Topic: Turkey: Saudi journalist last seen at Saudi consulate in Turkey
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Re: Turkey: Saudi journalist last seen at Saudi consulate in Turkey

Addendum: The Saudis can be infuriatingly slow, vague, and mind-bogglingly reluctant to make a decision, or to take responsibility for anything, but when it comes to their own survival they can move amazingly fast and brutally. Some of the ideological forebears of the current "let's take Islam back to the 14th century" crowd took over the Grand Mosque in Mecca back in 1979. That particular group, like MB, wanted to overthrow the Saudi monarchy. It took the Saudis two weeks to evict them (about 500 armed guys in a big complex), but they were pretty ruthless about it (a number of hostages died in the eviction), and the survivors were divided up into groups, sent to various parts of the Kingdom, and publicly beheaded in short order.

I suspect Khashoggi is just another one who took, or wanted to take, a shot at the King -- and missed. MBS has not shown much reluctance to squelching his opposition. Somebody should look around the Kingdom and see who else is suddenly missing.
by ELB
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:21 am
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Topic: Turkey: Saudi journalist last seen at Saudi consulate in Turkey
Replies: 65
Views: 13835

Re: Turkey: Saudi journalist last seen at Saudi consulate in Turkey

So I'm reading the journalist was also a Muslim Brotherhood fellow traveler, if not member, was a confidant and advisor to members of the Saudi royal family who are on the outs with the current ruler, and his beef with the current ruler is not that he's too authoritarian but that he is too western, not Islamic enough.

I think Trump may have jumped early and the wrong way on this one.

ETA: https://pjmedia.com/spengler/german-pre ... ppearance/
Germany's leading right-of-center daily Die Welt this morning reveals that Jamal Khashoggi was not a journalist, but a high-level operative for the Saudi intelligence service, an intimate of Osama bin Laden, and the nephew of the shadiest of all Arab arms dealers, the infamous Adnan Khashoggi. John Bradley reported last week in the Spectator that Khashoggi, who allegedly met a grisly end in a Saudi consulate in Istanbul, was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist organization that among other things wants to replace the Saudi monarchy with a modern Islamist totalitarian state.

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