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Salty1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:41 pm Let me see, firefighters call in an emergency help request a civillian decides to draw his gun to "protect" them. The cops roll up and ...

This is no different than any situation where one legally draws a weapon in self-defense or defense of others, be they family, friends cops, firefighters, or strangers. Bad things happen sometimes but the vast majority of self-defense/defense of others situations are correctly sorted out by the police.

bblhd672 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:17 am
I don't understand why the fire department would roll on a violent crime call in the first place. Seems like they would have better things to do..like fires and rescues.

1. Violent calls often provide things for fire department to do (note that this one include the suspect setting fire to things.). FD’s often have rescue capabilities that are useful, like medical 1st responders, ladders, lights, tools to open things, etc.

2. Calls to 911 are often remarkably short on details, and often the situation on scene is completely different than what was reported (or what the dispatcher understood). So it’s not unusual to send all the cavalry’s horses until the incident commander figures out how much help he really needs and sends units back home.

3. Sometimes things just get screwed up. I responded to a medical call for chest pain that was toned out to our VFD. I found my patient sitting on a chair in the driveway holding his chest. As I started to deal with him a deputy rolled up, which was normal since they responded to all medical calls. But when deputy asked “where’s the guy threatening people?” and my patient said “he’s in the house” i suddenly found out this was more than just chest pain. Turns out the patient’s uncle had been threatening to beat up his nephew and chasing him around the house, and nephew (about 50-something) developed shortness of breath and chest pain. Dispatch did not warn me to “stage for deputies”.