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by ELB
Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:45 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Rifle and Shotgun illegal if business as a liquor license?
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Re: Rifle and Shotgun illegal if business as a liquor license?

Does "licensed premises" not include the entire property or building at the address on the license? Or does it include only the space, room, or building included on file with the license? (srothstein, looking at you here ;-) )

In past years I thought it was the case that a room, or set of rooms, or patio area, or whatever could be sectioned off within a building or property, and that would be the only 51% area, but someone else differed with me on this, saying the license, blue or red, applies to the whole address on the license. I went online to check, and so far the evidence seems to point to this. "Evidence," in this case, being that I remember some years back that the bar at the Gunter Hotel in San Antonio had 51% signs prominently displayed -- but only in the bar itself. (I note that their old expired license has Gun Sign=Red on the TABC site). The rest of the hotel was not marked. Now when I go online at the TABC site, it says the license for the Gunter is Blue -- so apparently the bar is not sectioned off as a separate zone any more (and I'm pretty sure the Gunter still has a bar). Thus the bar revenues must be added in with the rest of the revenues , thus staying below the 51% threshold. Every other hotel I checked was the same way -- they are all Blue, and I am pretty sure they have bars where the main event is serving drinks, not just restaurants that serve alcohol. For example, the Menger and the Teddy Roosevelt bar.

In which case I wonder how the Frisco gun club handles this, assuming they have rifles and shotguns on the ranges (dunno, never been there).

If the ban does apply to the whole building, this does present a bit of discomfort -- I have traveled overnight with a rifle before, and it does not stay in the car. It goes into the hotel room with me. If the hotel serves alcohol in its restaurant, then apparently it's not supposed to let me do that? (not that I would point it out to them).

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