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by ELB
Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:30 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Texas A&M professor: "Repeal 2A"
Replies: 45
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Re: Texas A&M professor: "Repeal 2A"

anygunanywhere wrote:
jimlongley wrote:Based on the language of the Bill of Rights, repealing any of the amendments does not change the fact that the rights mentioned pre-existed and the BOR's purpose is merely to codify protection of those rights. SCOTUS has ruled that the 2nd Amendment PROTECTS a right, so even if the amendment goes away, the right still exists.
Exactly. It seems that the educated are not so smart. They are just brain dead from drinking the progressive collectivist koolaid.

Anygunanywhere
But. Or except.

If there is not a mechanism to enforce respect for a right, and enough people willing to execute the mechanism, then for practical purposes the right effectively ceases to exist. For example, the people in Great Britain have exactly the same right to self-defense and to arms that we do.
by ELB
Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:19 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Texas A&M professor: "Repeal 2A"
Replies: 45
Views: 4889

Re: Texas A&M professor: "Repeal 2A"

Clayton Cramer was one of the participants in this symposium, and he has a couple posts about it on his blog. Worth reviewing...

He mentions Penrose in this one, noting that she also agreed with overturning Roe vs Wade and Lawrence vs Texas. His conclusion: "It is amazing how much gun control advocates are willing to give up in order to justify restrictive gun control laws: abandoning "free to choose" and gay sex just to ban guns. Oh my!"

He also quoted one politician's presentation: "...claimed that the federal assault weapons ban was beginning to work when Congress let it expire after ten years...". Um, yeah. Sure.

Dave Hardy, a lawyer and 2A activist who writes the blog Of Arms and the Law commented on Clayton Cramer's participation:
...a high point came when Clayton Cramer and others pinned Richard Aborn, former head of Brady Campaign. He had insisted that he and they were never for banning handguns, that was a canard put out by NRA to scare the average gun owner, they were perfectly comfortable with law-abiding people owning handguns (so long as they registered them). Oh, and they did want to ban "assault rifles."

The pin was: how can you be in favor of banning "assault rifles," which are involved in a fraction of one percent of homicides, and not really be in favor of banning handguns, which are involved in about 50% of them? No answer was forthcoming, but only evasion.

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