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by ELB
Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL holder pulls gun at Sears
Replies: 35
Views: 5635

Re: CHL holder pulls gun at Sears

So the only way out was back through the entrance all the customers were coming in? No other way, no employee exit behind the counter? If true...never mind rowdy shoppers, what a fire trap, especially with Black Friday crowds. Yikes.

It might be a worthwhile exercise to evaluate every room or building you walk into as to "How do I (and my family) get out if something bad happens? It doesn't necessarily have to be a "normal" exit, it could be a window, or thru the drywall into the next room, or behind the counter and out through the stockroom or whatever. Lotsa reasons to want to be able to do this, like brawls, fires, Aurora-type mass murderers, flashmob shoplifters, etc.

If there's not another exit from a public place with lots of people in it, might want to consider whether it is a good idea to go in. Avoiding the "four stupids" doesn't just apply to bars and gas stations late at night...
by ELB
Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL holder pulls gun at Sears
Replies: 35
Views: 5635

Re: CHL holder pulls gun at Sears

I have stopped being surprised -- but I am still amazed -- at the number of people who hang around a violent interaction, well within striking range of anything that goes wrong.

If the CHL holder was sweeping people with his muzzle, that was bad form, but there really should not have been anyone left standing around for him to sweep, especially if anyone had any doubt as to his "good guy" status.

In addition to all the other reasons listed above as to why it wasn't a good idea to shoot that guy, the fact that you and everyone else were still there looking at him as he swept the crowd with his gun tells me that no one really thought he was a threat. Ergo, tough case to make that he deserved to be shot.

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