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by ELB
Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:13 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: ACTION NEEDED: Hearing on Anti-gun HB356
Replies: 69
Views: 11682

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Hearing on Anti-gun HB356

Griz44 wrote: ... I can't say that for several of the Utah CHL instructors I have spoken with. There was a definite financial conflict there, since 2 of them I spoke with earn 100% of their income from CHL classes.
This is no more a conflict of interest than you, a Texas CHL-only instructor, supporting a bill that will drive more students to Texas CHL-only instructors. So yes, you have a conflict of interest as well, by your own logic, if you make any profit at all on your instruction.
Griz44 wrote: ..., that still does not explain why a Texan with a clean record would not go get a Texas license..
I think it has been explained quite clearly, but let's try again. Texas charges more than it needs to for a license to do what should not be taxed or licensed at all. Also, SWMPRNR provided an excellent reason as well.

People move toward places that do not over tax them, which is a big reason why Texas in general, and its state government in particular, is doing better economically than, say, California. It is the reason that so many retired New Yorkers and Californians (and nowadays, many others as well) move to Florida or other southern states -- the taxes are lower. However, Texas is overtaxing in at least one particular area, i.e. CHLs, and people move (their money) away from that. It is as simple as that.

Guys making a buck off of teaching Utah classes is no more unclean than guys making a buck off of teaching Texas CHL. There is nothing holy about the taxing power of the state of Texas, and the 2A should certainly not be a cash cow for its treasury.

The legislature created this problem with the fees it established, and in typical legislative fashion, someone decides that the fix should be to curtail the taxpayer's choices with more laws, rather than dumping the bad bad law. This not a natural market -- it is a necessary, for the moment, evil. It is akin to the tax preparation business -- it is ridiculous that there exists a major industry solely because the national tax laws and IRS regulations are so complicated that they scare and overwhelm people who decided they have to have a professional do their taxes (and I am not talking about people with complicated businesses and investments either).

The CHL fees may have been a necessary compromise in the beginning to get the CHL program off the ground, but not any more -- no more than being required to display the CHL to a peace officer, or restricting CHLs from campus or church or wherever.

I read your arguments, and they don't cut the mustard. There is no good pro-2A or pro-Texas reason to support Burnham's bill. Only "pro-let's-regulate-CHLs-even-more" reasons.
by ELB
Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:29 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: ACTION NEEDED: Hearing on Anti-gun HB356
Replies: 69
Views: 11682

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Hearing on Anti-gun HB356

Griz44 wrote:Thank you for the reminder.

I will send out my faxes (again) in the morning supporting this piece of PRO-TEXAS legislation.
Not one single person has been able to substantiate the claim of anti-gun on this bill.
etc...

There is nothing in this bill that supports 2A rights. It is not a pro-gun, or for that matter, a "pro-Texas" bill in any form, unless you think higher taxes is "pro-Texas." It is simply a method to make sure Texans who want CHLs continue to pay higher taxes into the Texas treasury.

Texas significantly taxes law-abiding citizens to exercise their 2A rights. This, the fact that it costs $140 for the basic license and Utah charges considerably less (not "irresponsible instructors"), is the root of the "problem."

If by a "watered down" CHL program you mean one with fewer requirements and lower fees, I'm all for it. The CHL is not a "good" thing in and of itself, it is only "good" in the sense that it was a HUGE step forward from where Texas stood for about 130 years, until the mid 1990s. Any change to the program that expands the ability of Texans to exercise their rights (including using other States' licenses) is good. Any change that restricts Texans from doing so (and forces them to pay more taxes) is bad. This is hands-down a bad bill.

Edited to add: Here is an example of a "good," pro-gun, pro-Texas bill. viewtopic.php?f=110&t=43457" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by ELB
Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:57 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: ACTION NEEDED: Hearing on Anti-gun HB356
Replies: 69
Views: 11682

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Hearing on Anti-gun HB356

For anyone who hasn't already called or faxed:

Chair Sid Miller (512) 463-0628 fax (512) 463-3644
Vice Chair Allen Fletcher (512) 463-0661 fax (512) 463-4130
Rep. Marva Beck (512) 463-0508 fax (512) 463-5896
Rep. Lon Burnam (512) 463-0740 fax (512) 463-1075
Rep. Joe Driver (512) 463-0574 fax (512) 463-1481
Rep. Dan Flynn (512) 463-0880 fax (512) 463-2188
Rep. Barbara Mallory Caraway (512) 463-0664 fax (512) 463-0476
Rep. Aaron Pena (512) 463-0426 fax (512) 463-0043
Rep. Armando Walle (512) 463-0924 fax (512) 463-1510

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