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by treadlightly
Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:28 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Workplace Violence Policy
Replies: 29
Views: 4490

Re: Workplace Violence Policy

Abraham wrote:"Run or hide could be like deescalation."

Deescalation?

I'm not fully understanding, but if you mean fewer targets because people simply aren't seen or there to be shot, I guess I understand what you mean, but find the word more appropriate when I'm the actor in a potential altercation I can halt by being mature, if you will...

When a crazed gun man is mowing down innocent people, somehow the word "deescalation" doesn't come to mind.

Fighting back/Self Defense are words that come to mind and I'm not going to concern myself with "deescalation" when a mad man is on the loose...
We're on the same page, pretty much, I just don't object to run/hide/fight advice. I guess what I want is to be in as much control as I can. Running and hiding doesn't sound like a lofty tactic, but particularly for anyone not trained (or armed) it is probably not a bad thing to consider. Even for those who can credibly engage an assailant, finding defilade would likely be a primary need.
by treadlightly
Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:00 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Workplace Violence Policy
Replies: 29
Views: 4490

Re: Workplace Violence Policy

Abraham wrote:Why do I find the mantra of run/hide/fight questionable?

To me it sounds hollow.

My mantra would be: Find cover and shoot back.

Corporations especially are loath to allow employees personal guns to protect themselves.

They'd rather a flock of unarmed sheep if a killer of innocents shows up.

Better to let a killer do his thing than face a potential lawsuit because the employees were armed and defended themselves...though I don't know why lawsuits of the unarmed/unprotected killed/wounded family members won't occur...
Run or hide could be like deescalation. If a shooter doesn't have targets, part of the problem is solved, and I'll admit it - I want the option to run or hide. Sun Tzu said a wise general knows what battles to fight, and what battles to avoid, or something like that. Just don't take my option to fight, either.
by treadlightly
Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:11 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Workplace Violence Policy
Replies: 29
Views: 4490

Re: Workplace Violence Policy

Not a bad video, since it at least mentioned fighting with (improvised) weapons. Nice, also, the highlighted uselessness of 30.06/07 for public safety. The video could have included the statement if your company allows it and you have the license, a responsibly carried gun is a wholesome thing. Ten feet back behind a copier with a handgun is less dangerous than hand-to-hand at two feet with a fire extinguisher.

Our annual policy retraining video stressed the need to report any worker bringing a firearm to work. The company is from up north, doesn't have a clue about things like parking lot vehicle storage. Or, frankly, the real way to be prepared for an active shooter.

Still, I would not unnecessarily violate company policy. Not me, nossir. On those rare occasions I go to company facilities, I go as a potential victim.

But as a teleworker usually working by myself in a building I personally own, not leased to the company, or working from my home office, well, cough, I behave only to the extent I can bring myself to. Even if I never bare my teeth I prefer not to defang.

My house or my personally owned office, my rules. The company has the option to fire me, I maintain defensive options. Besides, I don't bring guns to work. They are already here. :biggrinjester:

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