We're on the same page, pretty much, I just don't object to run/hide/fight advice. I guess what I want is to be in as much control as I can. Running and hiding doesn't sound like a lofty tactic, but particularly for anyone not trained (or armed) it is probably not a bad thing to consider. Even for those who can credibly engage an assailant, finding defilade would likely be a primary need.Abraham wrote:"Run or hide could be like deescalation."
Deescalation?
I'm not fully understanding, but if you mean fewer targets because people simply aren't seen or there to be shot, I guess I understand what you mean, but find the word more appropriate when I'm the actor in a potential altercation I can halt by being mature, if you will...
When a crazed gun man is mowing down innocent people, somehow the word "deescalation" doesn't come to mind.
Fighting back/Self Defense are words that come to mind and I'm not going to concern myself with "deescalation" when a mad man is on the loose...
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- Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:28 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Workplace Violence Policy
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- Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:00 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Workplace Violence Policy
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Run or hide could be like deescalation. If a shooter doesn't have targets, part of the problem is solved, and I'll admit it - I want the option to run or hide. Sun Tzu said a wise general knows what battles to fight, and what battles to avoid, or something like that. Just don't take my option to fight, either.Abraham wrote:Why do I find the mantra of run/hide/fight questionable?
To me it sounds hollow.
My mantra would be: Find cover and shoot back.
Corporations especially are loath to allow employees personal guns to protect themselves.
They'd rather a flock of unarmed sheep if a killer of innocents shows up.
Better to let a killer do his thing than face a potential lawsuit because the employees were armed and defended themselves...though I don't know why lawsuits of the unarmed/unprotected killed/wounded family members won't occur...
- Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:11 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Workplace Violence Policy
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Re: Workplace Violence Policy
Not a bad video, since it at least mentioned fighting with (improvised) weapons. Nice, also, the highlighted uselessness of 30.06/07 for public safety. The video could have included the statement if your company allows it and you have the license, a responsibly carried gun is a wholesome thing. Ten feet back behind a copier with a handgun is less dangerous than hand-to-hand at two feet with a fire extinguisher.
Our annual policy retraining video stressed the need to report any worker bringing a firearm to work. The company is from up north, doesn't have a clue about things like parking lot vehicle storage. Or, frankly, the real way to be prepared for an active shooter.
Still, I would not unnecessarily violate company policy. Not me, nossir. On those rare occasions I go to company facilities, I go as a potential victim.
But as a teleworker usually working by myself in a building I personally own, not leased to the company, or working from my home office, well, cough, I behave only to the extent I can bring myself to. Even if I never bare my teeth I prefer not to defang.
My house or my personally owned office, my rules. The company has the option to fire me, I maintain defensive options. Besides, I don't bring guns to work. They are already here.
Our annual policy retraining video stressed the need to report any worker bringing a firearm to work. The company is from up north, doesn't have a clue about things like parking lot vehicle storage. Or, frankly, the real way to be prepared for an active shooter.
Still, I would not unnecessarily violate company policy. Not me, nossir. On those rare occasions I go to company facilities, I go as a potential victim.
But as a teleworker usually working by myself in a building I personally own, not leased to the company, or working from my home office, well, cough, I behave only to the extent I can bring myself to. Even if I never bare my teeth I prefer not to defang.
My house or my personally owned office, my rules. The company has the option to fire me, I maintain defensive options. Besides, I don't bring guns to work. They are already here.
