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by casp625
Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:33 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
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Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

ELB wrote:
mr1337 wrote:
Russell wrote:On a different note, I hope we invest about 90% of our lobbying efforts towards this bill. I am personally way more interested in seeing this pass than constitutional carry this session.
Same. I know that Constitutional Carry is inevitable. It will happen. The question is: "when?"

I think eliminating off-limits locations will be harder if done after CC, even if the legislation only applies to license holders.

I am all in for this bill. If it's the only pro-gun bill that passes this session, I will be a happy camper. If Constitutional Carry passes, I will still be a happy camper. If both pass, that would be awesome.
Yes, exactly.
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by casp625
Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:06 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 149615

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

twomillenium wrote:
Read an article back in 2010 that stated 22 states allow firearms in bars, which I'm assuming means at least 50% of states allow it. How many of these states have real issues?

On a side note, I'll be visiting Pennsylvania later in 2017 and it appears that with a LTC, the only places primarily off limits is schools, court houses, secure portions of airport (federal), any federal facilities, correction centers and mental hospitals. Signs carry no force of law and you must be asked to leave or charged with trespassing. Pretty reasonable, if you ask me, and probably won't have to disarm the entire trip. :thumbs2:
I hope they don't judge LTC's by math skill. 22 out of 50 is not at least 50%. I could be just me tho. :biggrinjester:
I was assuming in the last 6 years at least three states might have amended their laws in which carrying in a bar was legal from 2010 to 2016. :thumbs2: I was being lazy in research and read the first article on the subject which was dated 2010 :oops:
by casp625
Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:31 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 149615

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

treadlightly wrote:Man, that looks nice, but here's the question - what kind of nutcases will this bring out of the woodwork to make us all look like buffoons?

Removing the 51% restriction might sound like gun carriers want to get drunk and shoot the empties. Personally, I'd like to go to the best burger shack in town without disarming. It's a bar that defies certain prejudicial prototypes. It's motorcycle themed and quite family safe and friendly. The second time I went I saw a 51% sign and was surprised. It didn't seem like a place that should be off limits.

But I hate to think of theatrics on the State House steps, or drama queens in the legislative chambers gaining traction with blood-in-the-gutters fear mongering.
Read an article back in 2010 that stated 22 states allow firearms in bars, which I'm assuming means at least 50% of states allow it. How many of these states have real issues?

On a side note, I'll be visiting Pennsylvania later in 2017 and it appears that with a LTC, the only places primarily off limits is schools, court houses, secure portions of airport (federal), any federal facilities, correction centers and mental hospitals. Signs carry no force of law and you must be asked to leave or charged with trespassing. Pretty reasonable, if you ask me, and probably won't have to disarm the entire trip. :thumbs2:
by casp625
Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:46 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 149615

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

Papa_Tiger wrote:
casp625 wrote:
mr1337 wrote:Also does anyone know if the bill is identical or similar to the one filed last session?
HB308 mainly gutted all of 46.035 and exempted LTC from 46.03 while this bill primarily exempts LTC from 46.03, reduces some penalties of 46.035.
It does a heck of a lot more than that:
SECTION 11. The following provisions are repealed:
(1) Section 104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) Sections 411.203 and 411.204, Government Code;
(3) Section 52.062(b), Labor Code;
(4) Section 46.03(f), Penal Code, as amended by Chapters 437 (H.B. 910) and 1001 (H.B. 554), Acts of the 84th Legislature, Regular Session, 2015;
(5) Sections 46.035(b), (c), (f)(1), (i), (k), and (l), Penal Code; and
(6) Section 46.035(h-1), Penal Code, as added by Chapters 1214 (H.B. 1889) and 1222 (H.B. 2300), Acts of the 80th Legislature, Regular Session, 2007.
My fault. I completely missed that as I'm used to seeing strike through text on repealed portions. This bill does indeed eliminate a nice portion of 46.035 locations.
by casp625
Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:01 pm
Forum: 2017 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB 560 - Holy Grail?
Replies: 415
Views: 149615

Re: HB 560 - Holy Grail?

mr1337 wrote:Also does anyone know if the bill is identical or similar to the one filed last session?
HB308 mainly gutted all of 46.035 and exempted LTC from 46.03 while this bill primarily exempts LTC from 46.03, reduces some penalties of 46.035.

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