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by casp625
Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:48 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1509 "related to...unlawful carrying of firearms"
Replies: 14
Views: 9427

Re: HB 1509 "related to...unlawful carrying of firearms"

der Teufel wrote:So, does this mean that if I decide to go shooting, and I pick up my buddy on the way, and he brings his handgun along, he's violating the law if he doesn't have a CHL?
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
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(2) is traveling;
(3) is engaging in lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting activity on the immediate premises where the activity is conducted, or is en route between the premises and the actor's residence, motor vehicle, or watercraft, if the weapon is a type commonly used in the activity;
by casp625
Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:45 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1509 "related to...unlawful carrying of firearms"
Replies: 14
Views: 9427

Re: HB 1509 "related to...unlawful carrying of firearms"

K5GU wrote:
casp625 wrote: That only applies if you carry in your friend's car and you do NOT have a CHL.
Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
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(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
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(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, to carry a concealed handgun;
Right. The benefit if HB1509 passed might be the fact that the bill adds the wording "(2) on premises owned by or under the control of another person, provided that the owner or the person in control of the premises consents to the carrying of the weapon;.." Today, it's an offense even if the owner gives you consent. (Not referring to LTC (CHL).)
Using the same logic, if you knew the business owner of every establishment you are visiting, then you could carry your handgun everywhere without ever having a CHL/LTC since you gained the permission beforehand. But isn't that the point of getting your CHL/LTC, so you can carry in places that are not included in 46.02 (I.E. Home, car)?
by casp625
Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:24 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 1509 "related to...unlawful carrying of firearms"
Replies: 14
Views: 9427

Re: HB 1509 "related to...unlawful carrying of firearms"

K5GU wrote:Although there were some positive results by the Texas legislature in the recent session, I have to scratch my head over the failure of HB 1509 to get out of House Calendars. http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 01509H.htm

As a result, it is still a Class A misdemeanor under PE 46.02(a) (1) and (2) http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... .htm#46.02 to carry on another person's premises even when you have their permission.

In other words, if you get into your friend's car carrying your concealed handgun with your friend's permission, you could be arrested and charged with a Class A misdemeanor. Does this make sense?

I wonder why they're holding this up? :headscratch
That only applies if you carry in your friend's car and you do NOT have a CHL.
Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
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(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
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(6) is carrying a concealed handgun and a valid license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, to carry a concealed handgun;

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