[quote="Charles L. Cotton] I gave up also.
Chas.[/quote]
Limiting the discussion to the topic of civil discourse really leaves little dissent for most reasonable adults. What's left to say?
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- Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:21 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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- Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:54 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
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He's planning a run for the White House in 2016. A potential GOP candidate and ex-Governor of the state of Texas' words are now being used by Moms Demand Action, Huffington Post and Bloomberg's Everytown.C-dub wrote:It is probably common knowledge that when you have no real substance to make a point on that you resort to cheap shots like this. Referring to CJ, of course.
What I don't understand is why he's going after Perry at all. He is no longer the Governor and holds no political office anywhere at this time and IF he were to somehow become the next president still wouldn't have much to say or any influence on Texas gun laws. Right now, Perry's personal opinion holds the same weight as mine.
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:59 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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He's a long serving ex-Governor, an ex-presidential candidate and a possible future GOP presidential candidate. His comments become fodder throughout the entire country.Cedar Park Dad wrote:I'll be honest, I don't pay attention to him. he's not a government official or elected to any office.
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:19 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
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1. Perry's comments were made in an interview with the Texas Tribune and quoted by the Huffington Post. They reached well beyond a FB meme.Cedar Park Dad wrote:It might be that:TXBO wrote:I am in no way defending OCT or Grisham. Perry's remarks, however, deserve criticism through "civil discourse and debate". The absence of that from respected voices is disappointing. It also leaves ad hominem as the only response. Where is the discourse from the civil second amendment proponents?Charles L. Cotton wrote:The topic of this thread is civil discourse and debate, not the merits of licensed or unlicensed open-carry. I have to admit that I expected some folks to come to the defense of OCT and Grisham.steveincowtown wrote:Following this logic here we should also register guns, after all cars are registered. There is also no "right to drive" enumerated in the constitution.TXBO wrote:Here's another direct quote of Perry from the same article:
In his interview Thursday, Perry also said gun owners should be "appropriately backgrounded, appropriately vetted, appropriately trained."
"We license people to drive on our highways,” he said. “We give them that privilege. The same is true with our concealed handguns.”
Sounds like talking points right out of the liberal handbook.
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Chas.
1. No one noticed as this appears pretty close to a FB type meme comment.
2. Some "civil" critics already have.
2. Maybe some have. I'd sure like to read them if anyone can find a link.
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:57 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
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I'm certain you are right. I'm not looking for discourse concerning Perry's comments on this thread. I'm simply pointing out that absence of civil discourse in the media, leaves only the crazies to be heard. Where was the civil discourse?mojo84 wrote: I don't think this thread is intended to debate Gov. Perry's comments with civil discourse. I think there are other threads or potentially new ones for that. I think this thread is solely to discuss the inability or unwillingness of some to discuss things civilly and to acknowledge how detrimental that is to the cause. I may be wrong though.
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:46 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
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Re: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
I am in no way defending OCT or Grisham. Perry's remarks, however, deserve criticism through "civil discourse and debate". The absence of that from respected voices is disappointing. It also leaves ad hominem as the only response. Where is the discourse from the civil second amendment proponents?Charles L. Cotton wrote:The topic of this thread is civil discourse and debate, not the merits of licensed or unlicensed open-carry. I have to admit that I expected some folks to come to the defense of OCT and Grisham.steveincowtown wrote:Following this logic here we should also register guns, after all cars are registered. There is also no "right to drive" enumerated in the constitution.TXBO wrote:Here's another direct quote of Perry from the same article:
In his interview Thursday, Perry also said gun owners should be "appropriately backgrounded, appropriately vetted, appropriately trained."
"We license people to drive on our highways,” he said. “We give them that privilege. The same is true with our concealed handguns.”
Sounds like talking points right out of the liberal handbook.
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Chas.
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:26 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
- Replies: 53
- Views: 8027
Re: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
And the "anti's" read this forum. Just ask Mr. Cotton. They now have discourse outlined on social media using comments from this site and divisions among us. Not an opinion... pure fact.cb1000rider wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote: No mature, rational person truly believes one can successfully promote a concept or legislative goal by insulting or intimidating those who hold a different view.
I wish this was observed more frequently on this forum. Maybe Chas only meas it to apply to the legislative process - but there are way too many examples of castigation on this forum because a person or group doesn't follow exactly the same lines as someone else. I point it out on this forum because my expectations are higher with this group.
- Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:20 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
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I've never felt that ad hominem is appropriate but these comments deserve to be criticized vehemently and appropriately. That appears to be completely absent in the press.steveincowtown wrote:Following this logic here we should also register guns, after all cars are registered. There is also no "right to drive" enumerated in the constitution.TXBO wrote:Here's another direct quote of Perry from the same article:
In his interview Thursday, Perry also said gun owners should be "appropriately backgrounded, appropriately vetted, appropriately trained."
"We license people to drive on our highways,” he said. “We give them that privilege. The same is true with our concealed handguns.”
Sounds like talking points right out of the liberal handbook.
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- Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:34 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
- Replies: 53
- Views: 8027
Re: Incapable of civil discourse and debate
Here's another direct quote of Perry from the same article:
In his interview Thursday, Perry also said gun owners should be "appropriately backgrounded, appropriately vetted, appropriately trained."
"We license people to drive on our highways,” he said. “We give them that privilege. The same is true with our concealed handguns.”
Sounds like talking points right out of the liberal handbook.
In his interview Thursday, Perry also said gun owners should be "appropriately backgrounded, appropriately vetted, appropriately trained."
"We license people to drive on our highways,” he said. “We give them that privilege. The same is true with our concealed handguns.”
Sounds like talking points right out of the liberal handbook.