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oohrah wrote:This kid is just like me when I was 14, got my ham radio license and had a workshop in the garage with all my electronics stuff. These conspiracy theories are a crock.

Beiruty wrote:So what is hoax bomb? And do you show a hoax bomb to your teacher???! In layman terms, hoax bomb is device wired and made to look like bomb but no real explosive material. Something like this yu'all kidos:

VMI77 wrote:

Taypo wrote:

EEllis wrote:

VMI77 wrote:
You and others keep saying it looks like a bomb or a hoax bomb...hooey. As the photo above shows it looks like, and is, a disassembled alarm clock. I get that scientific and technical knowledge in this country is at pretty pathetic levels, but one would pretty much have to be a technophobe or have a pretty lurid imagination to turn something so obviously prosaic into an explosive device. The idea of a hoax bomb is to make people think it's a bomb. That could have easily been accomplished by adding something that could be mistaken for an explosive charge. That "hoax bomb" wouldn't have hoaxed my grandma.

I guess we need a new law making it illegal to disassemble an alarm clock, or defining disassembled alarm clocks as "hoax bombs," otherwise, charging this kid with a crime like making a hoax bomb, and getting it to stick, may be a little difficult.

At this point, anyone who thinks it looks like a bomb is obviously an idiot because there's no big cannonball with a burning fuse in there to make it go boom? We're supposed to be impressed that little Ahmed is smart enough to buy a clock, dismantle a clock and put it back together again inside a suitcase, for no apparent reason, nefarious or otherwise?

The reason is plenty apparent, as I've previously stated....it just doesn't fit your desire to see it as something more nefarious than a not too smart kid seeking credit for something he didn't do. Occam's razor.

EEllis wrote:

VMI77 wrote:
You and others keep saying it looks like a bomb or a hoax bomb...hooey. As the photo above shows it looks like, and is, a disassembled alarm clock. I get that scientific and technical knowledge in this country is at pretty pathetic levels, but one would pretty much have to be a technophobe or have a pretty lurid imagination to turn something so obviously prosaic into an explosive device. The idea of a hoax bomb is to make people think it's a bomb. That could have easily been accomplished by adding something that could be mistaken for an explosive charge. That "hoax bomb" wouldn't have hoaxed my grandma.

I guess we need a new law making it illegal to disassemble an alarm clock, or defining disassembled alarm clocks as "hoax bombs," otherwise, charging this kid with a crime like making a hoax bomb, and getting it to stick, may be a little difficult.

Excaliber wrote:

jimlongley wrote:

Beiruty wrote:The boy won fame and respect and the Irving PD and ISD got shamed.

Fleeting fame and no respect at all. Yes, the school got shamed, but the police did what they should have, and after talking to a friend from Irving, I suspect even more so that this was a blatant setup.

We're not alone in our suspicions.

Check out the article here on Ahmed's father's past stunts.

VMI77 wrote:I think common sense and discretion are used a lot less now than they were in the past.

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Interesting.

SewTexas wrote:

Taypo wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:

Taypo wrote:How many school shootings occurred when you were in school? How many terrorist bombings were there?

When I was in school, the Unibomber, Black Panthers, and a few others were very active.

Taypo wrote:I dont know much about teachers other than what I read these days, but you're comfortable with one making a determination as to whether or not something is explosive. I wish I had that kind of faith in them.

These days, anyone with more than an elementary school education should be able to look at a circuit board, wires, switches, and a display and come to the conclusion that, "There's nothing here that would go BOOM".

Even so, let's say the school took the "safe" route and called the police. At the mention of "bomb", I would expect the police to send their EOD unit. Again, after one quick glance they should recognize it as not a bomb. Everyone, including the police, said he told everyone that would listen that it was a clock. What the heck was the kid arrested for???

The only thing he's guilty of is inadvertently causing a bunch of Chicken Littles to get their panties in a wad.

What exactly does something that goes BOOM look like? Road Runner style sticks of dynamite? Maybe those cool bricks of C4 with wires everywhere?

And gosh, since the kid's telling everyone it wasnt a bomb, we should just stop and let him go back to class with a beeping suitcase that he walked into school with.

oh, come on the thing plugs in for heaven's sake!!! has anyone ever heard of a bomb that needs to be plugged in???


{goes and makes a note, counter that counts up and plug in bomb}

Pawpaw wrote:

Taypo wrote:What exactly does something that goes BOOM look like? Road Runner style sticks of dynamite? Maybe those cool bricks of C4 with wires everywhere?

Now you're just arguing for argument's sake.

I'll bet you can correctly identify a circuit board two out of three times. I'll hazard a guess that you can identify a digital display and a battery. I'll even go way out on a limb and bet you can identify a wire when you see it. Now what is left... NOTHING. So where is the explosion going to come from?

Pawpaw wrote:

Taypo wrote:How many school shootings occurred when you were in school? How many terrorist bombings were there?

When I was in school, the Unibomber, Black Panthers, and a few others were very active.

Taypo wrote:I dont know much about teachers other than what I read these days, but you're comfortable with one making a determination as to whether or not something is explosive. I wish I had that kind of faith in them.

These days, anyone with more than an elementary school education should be able to look at a circuit board, wires, switches, and a display and come to the conclusion that, "There's nothing here that would go BOOM".

Even so, let's say the school took the "safe" route and called the police. At the mention of "bomb", I would expect the police to send their EOD unit. Again, after one quick glance they should recognize it as not a bomb. Everyone, including the police, said he told everyone that would listen that it was a clock. What the heck was the kid arrested for???

The only thing he's guilty of is inadvertently causing a bunch of Chicken Littles to get their panties in a wad.

JALLEN wrote:Oh, please!

It looks no more like a bomb than a baritone sax.

Good grief!

Pawpaw wrote:

JALLEN wrote:

Taypo wrote:Ouch.

I feel bad for the poor kid, but I can't say as the response wasnt justified.

I can, and will.

This is nuts.

As a long time nerd who was a licensed amateur radio operator at age 13, and had built some of my station, I think his treatment was utterly appalling, reminiscent of the morons who touched off the preschool abuse cases recently referred to here. Idiots with degrees! If any of them had a brain in their head, this would have been checked out and ignored. In the past, this would have have a decent science fair project, the kid would be congratulated and looked up to. If his name was William Jones, it might still be.

If that is what the school is up to, just close them all and give vouchers for parents to use as they see fit. Public schools are a waste of money, a baby sitting service for prepubescent kids, a dating service for post pubescent kids.

Shame!

I would've been arrested 4 or 5 times a year if my teachers had been idiots like his are.

What moron can't tell the difference between a clock and a bomb? The lack of anything resembling an explosive should be one clue.