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by Taypo
Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49365

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

Right2Carry wrote:
ScooterSissy wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:I disagree with you that he sought out an interpretation. If he sought out an interpretation he would have contacted DPS and not a Senator. Again my guess is that he MAY have contacted DPS didn't like what he was told and then contacted the Senators office to put pressure on DPS.

I don't agree with the decision if in fact it happened.
That's not what he said, but it's interesting that you see into his head and somehow know differently. I'll let it go at differing opinions. Regardless, he still acted instead of whining.
Right2Carry wrote:I will ask you this question directly. If you had a child in school making straight A's and belonged to the National Honor Society, would you be OK with C students getting the same Reconition and benefits as your child?
Depends on what the requirements were for National Honor Society.

I'll repeat, the root of the argument was always that "discharged honorably" is a description, rather than a designation (as opposed to an "honorable discharge".) That view is supported by fact that on at least one instance, the DPS uses the term "discharged honorably", and lists a "general under honorable conditions" as a qualification.
Why are you his mouthpiece?
I'm guessing that he's taking up the torch since the OP got booted?

:deadhorse: :deadhorse:
by Taypo
Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:44 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49365

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

Good Lord, this argument started back up again...

If you quit feeding the trolls, they go back under the bridge.
by Taypo
Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:34 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49365

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

ScooterSissy wrote:
Taypo wrote:I'll throw my two cents in here after lurking for a bit.

As someone who has an Honorable Discharge from active duty Army, its fairly aggravating to watch someone with anything short of that be lumped into the same category with the same benefits and recognition. I don't pretend to have saved the world, been a Scout Seal Sniper Assassin or done dozens of tours in the sandbox. What I did do is fulfill the terms or my enlistments honorably and with distinction. Those folks with General Under Honorable Conditions may have served, but at some point, something prevented them from receiving an Honorable Discharge. They absolutely do not deserve to be categorized in the same fashion as those of us who have one.

If DPS chooses to do so to avoid arguments and save time, its disappointing.
I wonder if those that did do something extraordinary (let's not exaggerate, say - saved some folks, became a Seal Sniper, and did multiple tours in the sandbox) are as resentful that folks such as yourself are "lumped into the same category with the same benefits and recognition"...

Just something to think about.

BTW, this discussion hasn't been about receiving the same benefits and recognition, but rather about one particular benefit. When I was discharged, it was made clear to me that I only received a very small subset of the benefits most vets received. I never took advantage of the few I was due, except the CHL discount.
Sadly, as soon I clicked the submit button, this was exactly the response I expected. Speaking from experience, the guys that have saved the world will never stand out and never own it, especially in the real world. Also speaking from experience, the harder someone crows for a discount, a freebie or a benefit, the opposite is probably the case.

At this point, I'm out. The folks that have convinced themselves they still deserve full vet benefits aren't going to be swayed and the people on the other side of fence are probably done arguing.
by Taypo
Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:36 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably"
Replies: 193
Views: 49365

Re: Discharged "under honorable conditions" = not "honorably

I'll throw my two cents in here after lurking for a bit.

As someone who has an Honorable Discharge from active duty Army, its fairly aggravating to watch someone with anything short of that be lumped into the same category with the same benefits and recognition. I don't pretend to have saved the world, been a Scout Seal Sniper Assassin or done dozens of tours in the sandbox. What I did do is fulfill the terms or my enlistments honorably and with distinction. Those folks with General Under Honorable Conditions may have served, but at some point, something prevented them from receiving an Honorable Discharge. They absolutely do not deserve to be categorized in the same fashion as those of us who have one.

If DPS chooses to do so to avoid arguments and save time, its disappointing.

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