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Dave2 wrote:

Charlies.Contingency wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

Charlies.Contingency wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:Look at the shaded truths that were published and stated to get background checks passed on Oregon. Also, they claimed that 90% of the people wanted more background checks. When the votes were tallied they only received 60 some percent of the vote.

Very shaded truths. Last time I visited that side of the country, I got to talk to a politician from Washington. I remember arguing with him about guns, and then he made a smug statement. "You see that tower there, from atop of it, I can see every vote I need that matters in this state. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks or says, if I can get those right here to agree with me, I have already won."

That would have been the "space needle" of Seattle. Most of Washington was pleasant, except for the majority of everything West of the Cascades. Beautiful country to the West, and a lot of "Texas" like country towns I guess you could say. Too bad they get bullied around by the idiots from Sea-Tac. That's the way politics works over there though.

Sounds like he was trying to tax the country folk without bothering to represent them.

Why should he in his world? They are the minority and do not matter.

Because they grow his food, mine the raw materials to build his buildings, and generate the electricity (and other forms of power) required to maintain his lifestyle. The democrats think our economy would suffer if we got rid of the illegal immigrants? Whatever economic impact that would have would be pale in comparison to what would happen if everyone outside the major cities went on strike.

His point of view constitutes what should be (in a politician anyway) a criminal lack of logistical & managerial understanding.

thatguyoverthere wrote:

Charlies.Contingency wrote:Colorado seems to have shifted the past several years, all but thanks to the all the liberals flooding into and infecting the state. Used to be one of my favorite places.

Exactly. And that's the trend that scares me. If it can happen in Colorado, why not Nevada? Arizona? New Mexico? Texas? I certainly would hope not, but who would have thought so of Colorado 20 years ago. Even 10 years ago.

That's why we need to make people aware of our right to bear arms, and of our need to do so, and our desire to do so.

As others have pointed out, we are not going to win over the hard core anti's. But there are a lot of people who can be convinced. We just have to stay in the fight.

Dave2 wrote:

Charlies.Contingency wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:Look at the shaded truths that were published and stated to get background checks passed on Oregon. Also, they claimed that 90% of the people wanted more background checks. When the votes were tallied they only received 60 some percent of the vote.

Very shaded truths. Last time I visited that side of the country, I got to talk to a politician from Washington. I remember arguing with him about guns, and then he made a smug statement. "You see that tower there, from atop of it, I can see every vote I need that matters in this state. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks or says, if I can get those right here to agree with me, I have already won."

That would have been the "space needle" of Seattle. Most of Washington was pleasant, except for the majority of everything West of the Cascades. Beautiful country to the West, and a lot of "Texas" like country towns I guess you could say. Too bad they get bullied around by the idiots from Sea-Tac. That's the way politics works over there though.

Sounds like he was trying to tax the country folk without bothering to represent them.

MeMelYup wrote:Look at the shaded truths that were published and stated to get background checks passed on Oregon. Also, they claimed that 90% of the people wanted more background checks. When the votes were tallied they only received 60 some percent of the vote.