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Comparing this is a sexually transmitted desease is not a good camparission. One can never be cured and you will suffer from for the rest of your life, and one is a virus that will run its course after a few weeks (a pretty bad few weeks) but that's it.

That is part of the problem with how everyone is messaging it. It is completely survivable to just about everyone. There is no need for anyone to fear getting it, besides those at high risk ( is older or poor health). Just about everyone will get it. All of the medical research community agree on that. We can slow the pace of the spread and stretch it out for many many months, or not. But, in the end, the same number of people will get it regardless. The is in agreement in the medical community.

We have to stop fearing the virus. That goes to our law makers and leaders. When you forcefully close businesses, require shelter in place order (San Francisco), etc, it all leads to more fear and panic in our society. That is the failings of our government right now.

Rob72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:22 pm As a healthcare worker, working directly on COVID, and a Type 1 diabetic x 47 years, I am not terribly interested in the "rights" of people to congregate and wank their jaws.

If you are symptomatic, you have probably been shedding virus for several days before you knew anything was going on.

Hoarding has caused critical shortages of basic personal protective equipment for front-line healthcare providers.

I do not live in fear, but I have worked with infectious diseases, of all sorts, for about 7 of my 27 years in healthcare.

I can pretty well guarantee that at some point, someone will have done, "whatever we wanted to do," which will spread infection to someone like me.

At some point, after seeing other, "someones like me," infected, someone like me will do violence. That is likely to be the start of the gun-grabbing-National-Guard-in-the-streets.

My question is: is having your recreation worth the life and/or well being of your older neighbor, people at church, your parents?

John Adams who observed, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Yes, it is somewhat contagious before you have symptoms, but it is very contagious when you have symptoms. That is the most active time that you are shedding the virus. When the symptoms go away, so does most of the shedding. So, stay home when you show any signs or symptoms, just like you would with the flu. At least that's what the newest research on covid-19 is saying.

flechero wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:40 am

Aggie_engr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:05 am
If you think the government has any interest in the least bit of your health and safety, my friend I would look up the definition of naive. With that being said, I agree with other members that we should be using our ability to think for ourselves and make rational decisions, not giving in to the media induced panic rhetoric that has caused most normal Americans to fall into full blown hysteria.




Your post is a handbook of how freedom loving Americans should approach situations like that which we find ourselves in lately.

Wow, your foil hat is tight.

I'm not giving in to the media, one of my good friends runs the ER at a major hospital... and several others are Dr's who are all in crisis mode right now, preparing for a worst case scenario.

I hope you and the other selfish and self important "freedom loving Americans" enjoy your dinners and a movie out, in exchange for endangering a segment of the population. You guys are coming off like a couple of spoiled 3 year olds... or OCT activists.

They are things our governments can and cannot do. Period.
Our governments is supposed to honor and uphold our Constitution at all times. They cannot just uphold it most of the time, and say oh, it's an emergency and put it on pause. Once done, it will always be done and soon we will always live in some kind of emergency. If we continue on this path, (people panicking / freaking out and our governments keeping stripping our liberties), I fear that the fall of our country as we know it is coming soon. That's what I fear over covid-19.

We, as Americans, can choose to reduce our activities outside our homes based on our risk to us and our family. But, we cannot be forced to as we have liberties that our governments CANNOT take away. Hearing mayors, county commissioners, and governors forcing people to close their business, forcing people not to leaving their homes, and not to peacefully assembly is a very scary thing to see now. Much more scary than an over hyped virus.

It is a fact that most everyone will get covid-19. It is just a matter of when. Even locking every american in their home will NOT stop it spreading. China did just that and it still spread like wild fire and still is spreading. If they were able to control it, all of their factories would be back open. It is also a fact that mostly everyone who has it will recover just fine with no hospitalization. A very small percentage of people will require hospitalization, and an even smaller percent will die. Catching covad-19 is not a death penalty!

What is also scary is seeing people on this forum (which is to educate and inform people about one of our most important liberties) ready to lay down and allow other very important liberties to be taken away.

Liberty once lost is lost forever.

I'm done with this thread and I'll see everyone in the future. We can hang out here and complain about what we surrendered during our panic, while comparing our two weeks of suffering though the symptoms of covid-19 (hint: fever and being bedridden due to being weak, oh and a cough), while pledging allegiance to the USSA (United Socialist States Of America) as we are required to.

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Rob72 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:22 pm As a healthcare worker, working directly on COVID, and a Type 1 diabetic x 47 years, I am not terribly interested in the "rights" of people to congregate and wank their jaws.

If you are symptomatic, you have probably been shedding virus for several days before you knew anything was going on.

Hoarding has caused critical shortages of basic personal protective equipment for front-line healthcare providers.

I do not live in fear, but I have worked with infectious diseases, of all sorts, for about 7 of my 27 years in healthcare.

I can pretty well guarantee that at some point, someone will have done, "whatever we wanted to do," which will spread infection to someone like me.

At some point, after seeing other, "someones like me," infected, someone like me will do violence. That is likely to be the start of the gun-grabbing-National-Guard-in-the-streets.

My question is: is having your recreation worth the life and/or well being of your older neighbor, people at church, your parents?

John Adams who observed, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

John Adams also said:
Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it.

Looks at what political party a is the one pushing for the most mandatory restrictions. That alone is very telling.

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:18 am How far will the enemies of the Constitution, both foreign and domestic, go in their quest to destroy the Republic?

Live free or die.

The wife and I spent the weekend in Austin with our daughter and son in law doing whatever we pleased. We ate out in restaurants, went to shopping centers, went to a movie, went to the newly opened Shoot Point Blank.

I will not live in fear. Government STILL does not have the authority to take away my God given liberties.

If I develop symptoms of illness, I will stay home, as I always do.

Similar to how we spent our weekend. As long as I have no symptoms, I will be out and about running errands as normal. When I develop symptoms, I will stay home and let it run its course.