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by tyree
Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:25 pm
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Would you shoot?
Replies: 57
Views: 14452

Re: Would you shoot?

Abraham wrote:Pepper spray vs. a deadly weapon?

I've watched videos of guys being hit with a variety of brands of pepper spray and quite a number of them kept right on fighting. Yeah, they were in pain, but they still kept fighting...
Yes, 25% of the population is "relatively" immune from pepper spray. Like tasers and other less than lethal weapons, they cannot be relied upon for guaranteed compliance.

But I didn't suggest pepper spray vs deadly weapon. I suggested leathal weapon AND pepper spray vs a deadly weapon: "If i felt i could do it safely, ... Safely in the sense that it didn't impede getting shots on target as a fallback if needed. Mrs tyrees 45 would help here".

Law enforcement uses this approach every day without harm to the officers involved. If they can minimize risk to the attacker and bystanders by employing Tasers or pepper spray, they do. If they judge the risk of failure to be too high or the taser/pepper spray fails, they have immediate firearm backup through their partner.

It's a judgement call. I respect your perspective that you don't feel you would have been able to safely do that. However, I see some places in that video where it may have been possible for me to do so safely given the right circumstances. His life is sacred too and I would look for every opportunity to prevent having to shoot, but not so much that I or someone else were seriously hurt in the process.
by tyree
Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:04 am
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Would you shoot?
Replies: 57
Views: 14452

Re: Would you shoot?

Wmsnider wrote:What would you do in this situation? Would you as a licensed LTC holder shoot at this guy (if it were Texas). Seems like immanent danger to me. But its a PVC pipe, so is it life-threatening?
I carry fox brand stream oc spray for situations like this. If i felt i could do it safely, he'd get a shot of oc before he seriously hurt someone. Safely in the sense that it didn't impede getting shots on target as a fallback if needed. Mrs tyrees 45 would help here...

Otherwise, yes he'd be receiving incoming rounds post haste. Hands, feet, and expedient weapons like that pipe kill way more people every year than firearms or knives. He showed his intentions pretty clearly through the unprovoked attack.

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