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by Scott B.
Wed May 01, 2019 5:00 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: ATF says bump-stocks have never been used in a crime...
Replies: 17
Views: 6148

Re: ATF says bump-stocks have never been used in a crime...

jb2012 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 3:34 pm
Scott B. wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 3:26 pm From reading the letter, ATF did not say that at all. Rather they're stating only that they've found no records.

How literal was this FOIA search?

Did they simply search for crime reports coded with the words "bump stock?"

Perhaps they only recorded the brand/model number of said "bump stock."

Or, and this is my suspicion, since the 'bump stock" has never been part of firearms model/nomenclature it was never recorded to begin with. Do they record the brand of sights or other rifle furniture? Not that I'm aware of.

The response raises more questions but certainly doesn't say what the subject line says.
I have to disagree and here’s why. We can all agree that the ATF/left has wanted to ban bumpstocks since the Las Vegas shooting. We can all agree that IF the ATF were to be biased in one direction (hint:they are) they would use any resource available to find records of crime committed with bumpstocks to further their own agenda. It’s much more logical that the ATF “got got”. They are required under FOIA to disclose any of these records, and I can guarantee you that if there were crimes committed with these items, it would be in this letter. It really only makes sense this way. I cannot imagine the ATF “hiding” or “failing to disclose” information that is a MAJOR key point in their own argument.
If "we can all agree" the world would be a boring place. The ATF does not have a collective mindset and I would have worded such a request differently.
by Scott B.
Wed May 01, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: ATF says bump-stocks have never been used in a crime...
Replies: 17
Views: 6148

Re: ATF says bump-stocks have never been used in a crime...

From reading the letter, ATF did not say that at all. Rather they're stating only that they've found no records.

How literal was this FOIA search?

Did they simply search for crime reports coded with the words "bump stock?"

Perhaps they only recorded the brand/model number of said "bump stock."

Or, and this is my suspicion, since the 'bump stock" has never been part of firearms model/nomenclature it was never recorded to begin with. Do they record the brand of sights or other rifle furniture? Not that I'm aware of.

The response raises more questions but certainly doesn't say what the subject line says.

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