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Took the Micro Roni out for a range test. Mixed results:

At 25 yards had a very nice small fist sized group, so pistol precision increased as expected with the more stable platform. Had to be mindful of the offset of the RDS optic vs. the G19 bbl or would affect location of grouping at 25 yards (did not see that accuracy vs. precision issue at closer distances). Roni appears to grip pistol primarily at front of frame, so that malfunctions seemed to increase vs. classic two handed semiauto pistol grip, especially with longer (33 round Glock factory mags) - so advantage of larger capacity mags in question. Shot factory new 124 grain NATO and 124 grain +P JHP, no felt recoil to speak of. Front of pistol slide came out of Roni quite dirty, luckily its a Glock so will not require any cleaning . All in all it seems a reasonable compromise in that pistol precision improved but definitely not equivalent to a true pistol caliber carbine.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:54 am

Bitter Clinger wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:33 pm TAM,

When I travel I by truck I carry my G19 Gen4 concealed strong side hip. By having the Roni and the RDS (and some 33 round mags), I can increase the effective distance over which I am accurate with the pistol (say from 25 out to 50 yards). I completely acknowledge the correctness of your statement with regard to barrel length, but with the Roni, when I exit the vehicle for the evening somewhere that I have not been before, I don't have to bring the long gun into the hotel with me and if it does get stolen, the thief does not get a gun, only an expensive, relatively light weight piece of non-functioning plastic. Hence my primary reasoning. YMMV.

BC

P.S. I have a SIG MPX with an 8" Bbl in 9mm that I have SBR'd and which is an absolute joy to shoot out to 100 yds+, but its heavier to lug around and way too expensive to leave overnight in the truck, even locked up.

Well, the theft reason is a valid one I had not considered. I’ve “window-shopped” both the MPX and the CZ S1 Scorpion, and right now, both are a little too rich for my pocket book. But also, neither takes my Glock magazines, and I’m really trying to unify the platforms as much as possible.

What to do, what to do...

Yeah, the magazine thing doesn't really concern me. I would prefer .300 BO or even 5.56 over the 9 mm, as in the time it takes a 9mm to reach a 100 yard target you can pretty much light up a cigarette and pour yourself a mixed drink

TAM,

When I travel I by truck I carry my G19 Gen4 concealed strong side hip. By having the Roni and the RDS (and some 33 round mags), I can increase the effective distance over which I am accurate with the pistol (say from 25 out to 50 yards). I completely acknowledge the correctness of your statement with regard to barrel length, but with the Roni, when I exit the vehicle for the evening somewhere that I have not been before, I don't have to bring the long gun into the hotel with me and if it does get stolen, the thief does not get a gun, only an expensive, relatively light weight piece of non-functioning plastic. Hence my primary reasoning. YMMV.

BC

P.S. I have a SIG MPX with an 8" Bbl in 9mm that I have SBR'd and which is an absolute joy to shoot out to 100 yds+, but its heavier to lug around and way too expensive to leave overnight in the truck, even locked up.

Here is my most recent. CAA (Israeli) Micro Roni brace for G19 with Vortex SPARC RDS. of course, if RDS fails can always just pull G19 out I reckon

montgomery wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:06 pm Given the overall optic ruggedness and long battery life with modern red dots, holographic, and scopes, what is the opinion on running no iron sights versus folding sights versus fixed front / folding rear for a fighting / training carbine?

Funny, but I was having this same discussion at the DFW Gun Show this past weekend. If running military grade optics (e.g., Trijicon) BUIS just seem like a useless addition. I have never had an optic fail yet (Aimpoint, EoTech, Trijicon, etc.) and don't expect to see combat, so as I acquire new platforms, I am just going to run the optic and forget about the BUIS. As I age, I find the BUIS become less and less useful anyway.