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jmra wrote:I don't believe someone who entered an establishment for the sole purpose of being kicked out of it understands the concept of courteous and well mannered.

I guess we should all just be good sheep and go along without ruffling any feathers? If they posted all their locations 30.06 would you disarm and still walk in? At what point do you at least let them know in some form or fashion that they will no longer be getting your money? Or do you continue to just support them financially?

Oldgringo wrote: Agreed! What was it Dale Carneghie taught, "You attract more bees with honey than with vinegar"?

OK, I'll bite. Tell me about the honey. Should I stand outside the (unposted) door and wave a $100 bill in the window until they invite me in?

o b juan wrote:F350-6
you have just shown up and have 15 posts ..

You might want to discuss this with a friend who is not involved with OCT

conflict and dispute resolution does not call for escalation

Thank you for your concern and being so polite about it, but I have thick skin. You can call me a troll or idiot if you prefer. For the record, I have never participated or knowingly spoken with anyone involved in OCT or any related organization. As I mentioned initially, I don't plan on open carrying anywhere, unless I feel it will help relay a message. I'm also not 100% sold that this is the official Whataburger position and not just some franchise deal. I also live between a town of 1,200 and a town of 600, the closest Whataburger to my house is in a different town 15 miles away and part of a gas station, so my mental picture of walking into Whataburger might be different than yours.

Edit: 16 now.

Taypo wrote: So you're going to OC into a location that you KNOW doesn't allow it with the expectation of forcing an employee to 86 you...and you think this is somehow going to convince them that they're making a bad decision? That's pretty irresponsible and reeks of YouTube theatrics. Way to throw the other 99% of us that care abou our image under the OCT bus.

As far as a sign being "required", you're wrong there too but that's another argument.

So aside from reading posts here, how exactly was I to know that open carrying was a supposed no-no? If they release a statement like Target did that said they prefer you not to carry, even concealed, does that mean you disarm before you walk into Target? When you see a gunbuster sign do you not enter or disarm because you know that deep down inside they don't want you to carry in their store? Please explain to me the difference in a press release that not many people will see and a gunbuster sign in terms of legal notice? (I don't count something I read on the internet in some forum as gospel to this thread is excluded as notice)

The law seems fairly straightforward to me. Notice is defined and clearly stated with specific wording and the posting requirements are well known. When concealed carry was first passed, there were many places that initially put up 30.06 signs. Were we just supposed to quietly go away and never enter those places again? When the shootouts didn't happen every night and phone calls were made voicing complaints, the signs started coming down. Anyone else remember those days?

So walking into a place that is not posted and then leaving when being asked to leave and letting them know you won't spend money there is a bad tactic? Should we be obeying the gunbuster signs too?

I remember when 30.06 was new and all the places that posted signs for fear of all the massacres. Many of those signs came down when management was informed about lost customers and the big shoot outs never came to be.

I've never slung a rifle and walked into any business. Don't agree with what OCT did. But if, (big if) the story is true, Whataburger needs to pick a side. Either post the proper sign or keep their mouth shut. The law is clearly spelled out for them.

If this turns out to be true, then I will open carry into Whataburger just to be told to leave so I can remind them of the money they are losing. I don't plan on ever open carrying anywhere else. Concealed is what I will continue to do, but if they don't want open carry, post the required sign on the door as the law says. Otherwise expect the protests and headaches.

It's pretty simple. Just choose a side. Krogers did and it didn't seem to hurt them. Sad to think a Texas icon burger joint would possibly do this.