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MechAg94 wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 9:41 am And every gun you buy needs to be evaluated to make sure it performs for your intended task no matter what reputation it has.

Scott B. wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 9:27 am There's a lot of signal noise w/ Sig these days. The 320 issue was resolved. They moved forward.

The 365 is innovative and also the hottest selling new pistol. There have been some issues, they'll fix them and move on.

Every manufacturer goes through this. Glock? They've been making the same product for 30 years, refining it as they go. The 43 was new a few years back. They had issues, fixed them and moved on.

1911 been around a while. We can debate if it's been perfected or not. Wheel guns been around a while, pretty reliable.

There are no flawless new product launches.

Sig could do the safe thing and continue to make DA/SA pistols but they're going to innovate just like every other successful manufacturer.

Am I biased? I suppose. I sell more Sig product to local LE than outfits 3x our size. I carried a 320 for a while so I could speak more effectively about it.

What is my EDC gun? A tried and true M&P9 Pro....and yes, they had problems too.

Liberty wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 4:45 am For me there are two kinds of guns, Gunst to depend on and guns that are toys. I wouldn't buy a gun that to carry or protect my home that hadn't been on the market for a few years. and developed a reputation for being safe and reliable. A gun that's to be used as a range toy or a collector's safe queen is a different story. I would think that one would want to have the highest possible confidence in the weapons they choose to carry.

Other people have more trust than I do. I would never trust a 1911 because of reliability issues with defensive ammo nor a Glock's and their ilk because of their reputation for shooting the people they are meant to protect. Others don't worry about such things. That's OK, but for me, I carry because of the tiny odds I'm going to need it. It makes no sense to play the odds with unsafe or unreliable weapons.

Some people put little importance to being drop safe. The thing is most people aren't that drop safe. We get into car accidents we fall, and things fall onto us. It's one thing to take a gun that might not be 100% drop safe to the range, but on one's persons while working driving etc. is a risk I wouldn't want to take. like everything in life though we make choices.

flechero wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 9:44 pm

cyphertext wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 7:50 pm It isn't only the P365... The P320 had issues...

I don't consider the 320 a flop, regardless of the bad press. Lots of guns aren't certified drop safe, although it did pass all the prescribed tests to earn such a label. And now it's altered/upgraded to be "completely drop safe." So it shoots great, has a nicer trigger than the plastic competition, modular grip bodies and fits most hands and hasn't had any mag, feed or frame issues (like several others) and you think it's a flop? That's a bit too critical, IMO.



Not to re-open that can O' worms but I wonder how many other "drop safe" guns have since been revisited with a hammer?

cmgee67 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:38 pm P365 = awesome concept
Current 365 quality control? = major flop

extremist wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 1:24 pm So, bottom line - if you have an issue with the P365, Sig will fix it. So, what's the problem?