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by cyphertext
Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: Sutherland Springs church 26 dead 20 injured in mass shooting
Replies: 342
Views: 96751

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 26 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

The Annoyed Man wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:25 am
cyphertext wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:11 pm As much as I hate it, it does appear that Academy broke the law as it is written. Since Ruger sells the rifle with a 30 round magazine, as well as a "compliant" model with a 10 round magazine under different model numbers and SKUs, it does appear that Academy did break the law. Many of us complain about "activist judges"... well, here is a case that could bite the good guy with the law as written.
I suppose that the outcome will depend on how the court defines the word "includes" (see attached image below). My Ruger PC9 and Gunsite Scout both came with "included" buttstock spacers, but the weapons can fully function without any of the spacers. So are they accessories (which by the way, they can be purchased separately that way from Ruger), or are they part of the gun? Since the AR556 can be fired and eject the spent case without the included magazine (just like with any AR15, and regardless of magazine capacity) by dropping a round into the chamber and letting the bolt slam home and then firing the gun, it seems like it would be an easy enough argument to make in court that a magazine is not necessary to firing the gun, if presented along with an easily made video demonstrating that fact to a judge or jury.

It could boil down to what kind of judge the prosecutor can get by shopping the case around.


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So AT WORST, if they can get a fair judge, Academy is guilty of selling him a prohibited magazine ... which is a different kettle of fish.
You could be right TAM, and I hope you are. I can see it being argued both ways... One could argue that the term "compliant model" is nothing but marketing, since the rifle is the exact same and the only difference is the accessories in the box. Therefore, they did not sell him a rifle that is prohibited. Guess we will just have to see how this one plays out.
by cyphertext
Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:11 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: Sutherland Springs church 26 dead 20 injured in mass shooting
Replies: 342
Views: 96751

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 26 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

As much as I hate it, it does appear that Academy broke the law as it is written. Since Ruger sells the rifle with a 30 round magazine, as well as a "compliant" model with a 10 round magazine under different model numbers and SKUs, it does appear that Academy did break the law. Many of us complain about "activist judges"... well, here is a case that could bite the good guy with the law as written.
by cyphertext
Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:32 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: Sutherland Springs church 26 dead 20 injured in mass shooting
Replies: 342
Views: 96751

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 30 injured in mass shooting

gtolbert09 wrote:Until they release the actual charge, it would be difficult to speculate his rights to gun ownership.
Exactly... Newer reports are indicating a bad conduct discharge, not dishonorable, which in of itself does not preclude him from gun ownership. What I haven't seen is what the charge he was convicted of during his court martial... Seems like it was related to domestic violence, but I haven't seen what the actual charge was.

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