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by cyphertext
Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:01 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Home defense: birdshot
Replies: 49
Views: 10337

Re: Home defense: birdshot

twomillenium wrote: but it is more than effective inside the home with rooms no larger than 30 ft. especially where more than one people are in the home or the home is in the burbs, apartment or condo.
No, it isn't... It still does not penetrate to hit vitals. It makes a nasty looking, shallow wound... but it is way less likely to stop a threat than the buck shot.



If you would not count on any firearm for a one shot stop, why would you use a load that is the least likely to provide a one shot stop?

And the cut shell doesn't perform any better...

by cyphertext
Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:00 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Home defense: birdshot
Replies: 49
Views: 10337

Re: Home defense: birdshot

twomillenium wrote: It is, it has and that is proven
That video proves nothing other than birdshot had a larger spread... He even said that the birdshot will not penetrate as deep as the buck shot. Look at videos where the birdshot is shot into ballistic gelatin. The FBI states that you will need 12" or more penetration in ballistic gel to reliably hit vitals. Birdshot fails to reach 12" penetration.

Here is a video using #4 shot... It fails to have sufficient penetration.

by cyphertext
Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Home defense: birdshot
Replies: 49
Views: 10337

Re: Home defense: birdshot

twomillenium wrote:
cyphertext wrote:I notice the writer is a Sheriff... if he carried a shotgun on patrol, what did he have it loaded with?
The article stated that he carried 00 buck in his patrol car and birdshot in his home defense shotgun. It also stated that the shooter is entirely responsible for everything and anything they shoot, no matter their good intentions. I personally witnessed a similar test/demonstration and that convinced me that birdshot inside the home is macho enough for defense and it is the intelligent choice for home defense. As far as hearing or knowing of an innocent being seriously shot or killed by friendly fire from a home defense shotgun, I don't know of any but I don't want to be the first when birdshot has proven to be more than efficient to stop a threat inside the home.
Anything that will penetrate enough to hit vitals will go through sheet rock. Birdshot fails to penetrate to the FBI's recommended depth in ballistic gel to hit vitals... therefor birdshot is a poor choice for defense.
by cyphertext
Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:35 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Home defense: birdshot
Replies: 49
Views: 10337

Re: Home defense: birdshot

I notice the writer is a Sheriff... if he carried a shotgun on patrol, what did he have it loaded with?

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