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jmra wrote:

TVGuy wrote:

jmra wrote:

TVGuy wrote:A Glock 43 can be found for $358 on a regular basis, don't trust your life with a pistol that is known for nothing other than problems like a PF9. (There are also other options that have been pointed out)

Most people I've seen can't put 200 rounds through that gun without breaking it. Watch some YouTube reviews and /or shoot it at the range and see if you can get any more usage out of it.

I was always under the impression that Kel Tecs were only sold on the black market in the hands of criminals.

Sorry, couldn't hold back!

I think that $358 price on the G43 is Blue label pricing.

I think you're right. Need. More. Coffee.

I stand on my point though. Even at $450 it's a better value.

the G43 will be my next purchase.

Javier730 wrote:

ShootDontTalk wrote:Nothing personal here but.....I always find it fascinating when people who have zero actual experience with something pontificate based solely on what they read on that bastion of truth, the Internet. I dare say 15 minutes searching will turn up lots of negative comments on almost everything ever made. Most people who have been around guns for a while know that every major manufacturer has problems now and then. Some use customers for their QA. Tell me I'm mistaken.

In my nearly 6 decades of shooting I have owned, or shot, almost everything ever made. I've had good and bad. I have owned and shot two PF-9's for over 10 years - each. I haven't experienced any of the maladies spoken of here. I have several thousand rounds through one and around 1000 through the other. Never a problem of any kind. Period. Have some had problems with theirs? I'm sure. Show me a brand that no one has ever not had a problem with.

Would I compare a PF-9 to my finest 1911, Glock, Sig, or other gun that costs 2 to 10 times more? No. Is there a reason I wouldn't trust my life to my PF9's? No, because I have in the past. It always goes bang when I pull the trigger. I usually carry one as a backup, but not because it is not capable. Bottom line. The PF-9 is perfectly serviceable for its intended purpose and, at $250, is one of the great bargains of the gun world.

If you buy one, go shoot lots of rounds through it and make sure it works. If you have a problem, send it back. Kel-Tec is a stand up company. Just don't openly carry it to BBQ's.

I suspect some may get all bunched up over this. That's okay. I've spent a little over 25 years with two PF-9's. I know a little bit about them.

I don't think there are negative comments being made. All that being mentioned its that for a little more money, he can get a better quality firearm.

ShootDontTalk wrote:Nothing personal here but.....I always find it fascinating when people who have zero actual experience with something pontificate based solely on what they read on that bastion of truth, the Internet. I dare say 15 minutes searching will turn up lots of negative comments on almost everything ever made. Most people who have been around guns for a while know that every major manufacturer has problems now and then. Some use customers for their QA. Tell me I'm mistaken.

In my nearly 6 decades of shooting I have owned, or shot, almost everything ever made. I've had good and bad. I have owned and shot two PF-9's for over 10 years - each. I haven't experienced any of the maladies spoken of here. I have several thousand rounds through one and around 1000 through the other. Never a problem of any kind. Period. Have some had problems with theirs? I'm sure. Show me a brand that no one has ever not had a problem with.

Would I compare a PF-9 to my finest 1911, Glock, Sig, or other gun that costs 2 to 10 times more? No. Is there a reason I wouldn't trust my life to my PF9's? No, because I have in the past. It always goes bang when I pull the trigger. I usually carry one as a backup, but not because it is not capable. Bottom line. The PF-9 is perfectly serviceable for its intended purpose and, at $250, is one of the great bargains of the gun world.

If you buy one, go shoot lots of rounds through it and make sure it works. If you have a problem, send it back. Kel-Tec is a stand up company. Just don't openly carry it to BBQ's.

I suspect some may get all bunched up over this. That's okay. I've spent a little over 25 years with two PF-9's. I know a little bit about them.

2farnorth wrote:I have carried a PF9 since about 2011. Initially had problems with WWB and SB ammo. All others worked great. Last year I noticed a small crack starting on the slide and sent it back to KelTec. They replaced the entire gun and the replacement has been outstanding. No FTE's or any other "jams". The quality of the bluing is much better also. Overall, I'd buy another if I had the need.
I quit the KTOG board so I haven't kept up with what's going on with KT's products now

jmra wrote:

TVGuy wrote:A Glock 43 can be found for $358 on a regular basis, don't trust your life with a pistol that is known for nothing other than problems like a PF9. (There are also other options that have been pointed out)

Most people I've seen can't put 200 rounds through that gun without breaking it. Watch some YouTube reviews and /or shoot it at the range and see if you can get any more usage out of it.

I was always under the impression that Kel Tecs were only sold on the black market in the hands of criminals.

Sorry, couldn't hold back!

I think that $358 price on the G43 is Blue label pricing.

jmra wrote:Not a big fan of keltec - IMHO for a little more money there are much better firearms out there.