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I've noticed that the yuppies go into these small towns like Frisco and then take over. So what was formerly the countryside is now one huge mini-mall. I think you can blame the developers for that. The flip side is that then your land becomes more valuable. You can always sell and move out even further. I'd love to have some acreage in the hill country. Parts of that are being developed, but not like N. Texas.

I guess to me, racist means that I have a problem with what color a person is, not where they come from or what kind of music they're blasting. I have no problem with a person's creed, color, background, etc. I only mention specifics because of the current problems going on in Dallas. And yes, illegal aliens are a BIG part of the problem. That's why people like me, that actually try to improve the area, leave and go somewhere where you don't have to deal with it.

HAH! The police won't even live in that neighborhood...man. I knew it was bad, but not that bad. Actually, the weird thing is they are building new $500k houses all over that area. Doesn't seem like they are getting snapped up off the market that fast though.

I have moved, btw. I left Dallas for good last year after living there for several years. I only lived in that particular house for about a year and a half though. Much longer and I would have been popping people through the fence with my SKS. I now live in Bedford, but I want to move out into the country where I can have some land eventually.

I thought you might be a Dallas officer.

...and have better things to worry about than a regular citizen's quality of life.

Don't agree with you at all and wonder why you feel this way?

Let me put it this way. I don't think that statement applies to the regular officer on the street. In fact for the most part, the police were very courteous and helpful. I did feel like they had my best interest at heart. What it DOES mean, however, is that after getting your fifth shooting/stabbing/domestic disturbance call for the day, the noise call kind of goes on the backburner. In fact it would take an hour or so for them to respond usually. Is this the officer's fault? Of course not. Dallas just not have the boots on the ground and will to deal with this type of thing. Until they do, those horrible neighborhoods will stay that way. That, or enough yuppies will move in to change it. That is happening over there, but it takes a long time. If I call the police over here (Bedford) it takes less than five minutes. That's because it's a much smaller town with very little crime.

As far as you saying they could be thrown in jail after a few times...yes, they can, but after calling at least 30 times over less than a year, I knew it would never happen. I even had sheetrock up on my windows that faced their house. That's how loud it was.

You would think that when they walk up and hear tejano music blasting, that they'd be itching to take someone in.

I'm sure that you didn't mean for it to be, but this statement comes across as a racist comment. I really don't care what kind of music they're playing when I arrive. If it's Frank Sinatra or the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, and it's too loud, they need to turn it down and not disturb others.

Well, racist or not, when I hear music cranked up, 99% of the time it is two kinds of music: tejano or rap. Besides, I never even said what color the people are doing it. Generally though, the people cranking tejano are illegal aliens from south of the border. I'm not trying to be racist, I'm just stating the truth. My real estate agent, and friend is hispanic. He grew up here in the US and believe me...you will never see him next to a pickup with the doors open blasting tejano and drinking beer. He drives an Infiniti anyway, so it just wouldn't look right! I told him my whole scenario and since he sold me the house, he felt bad and got me another one. Yes, I had to pay of course, but he made me money on the Dallas house. I think you know the point I'm making. It's a cultural issue. It's also not something that happens every once in a while. The people that do it, do it all the time. I'm sure the police don't appreciate it.

As far as an illegal being deported because of a felony charge. Don't believe that. The guy that killed Officer Jackson had committed felonies and been in and out of jail. And yes, that is the specific incident I'm referring to. For some reason I thought the other guy was an illegal too, my bad.

Also, when I say our laws do not apply to them, I mean it this way: If you or I murder somebody, then yes, we could flee to Mexico. It is possible, but I don't speak the language, know anyone there, etc. These guys have everything already in place to jump right back home. In the case of my wonderful neighbors, the owner of the house even owned stores back in El Salvador where the psycho brother in law could go back to work. When they're ready to come back then they get another illegal identity and guess what? They're back. That's why I say our laws do not apply to them. If you caught them right away, sure...I'm talking about what usually seems to happen. Besides, those people were so crazy they wouldn't even think about the consequences like you and I, the law abiding citizen would. That's the only reason I didn't shoot them the day they threatened me, consequences. If it was like the old west, then you can bet that I would have right then.

If someone threatened to kill you they could have been arrested for Assault or a Terroristic Threat. Most people wrongly believe that to be arrested for assault that there has to be some type of physical disturbance. Not so - intentional verbal threats meet the elements of the offense.

Yeah, I've heard of that, but the police pretty much have to be in the mood to do something about it, which they obviously weren't that day. The problem as I see it is...if something like this happens, and the police have been to this specific house numerous times and even arrested people there, then I would assume they would want to put an end to it. The truth is that they either didn't care, didn't have time to deal with it or had better things to do. Either way, I'm sure the problem continues now with someone else dealing with it.

I will admit that this experience has changed me in many ways. I was already a gun totin' redneck before, but now it's much more pronounced. I won't even say some of the other ways I've changed on this message board. It wouldn't be appropriate. I still have a lot of respect for the police. I seriously don't blame them for this (even though I did a little at first), I blame the city for it's lack of leadership and non-committal attitude when dealing with criminals. As you stated, you wouldn't live around these people either. That's why I moved away from Dallas because unless you're a millionaire it seems like you have to live around them.

I wish you luck and safety in your career. Dallas is a rough town. I've known plenty of Dallas officers since I used to work in high rise security downtown years ago. I've heard tons of stories that the normal person wouldn't believe. I'm sure you have a few.

To CHL/LEO

Yes, they did give them a citation once. You have to realize though, the Dallas police are understaffed and have better things to worry about than a regular citizen's quality of life. Not that they don't care...they just simply don't have time. There are so many other fish to fry in Dallas. That's one reason why you never see a cop on the side of the highway giving tickets. They don't have time for that kind of thing in Dallas.

You would think that when they walk up and hear tejano music blasting, that they'd be itching to take someone in. Especially since it seems that when a cop gets killed, it's almost always at the hands of an illegal. That happened in my very neighborhood when I was living there. Dallas officer shot and killed by an illegal alien who had recently been released from jail. That happened down the street from my house. I was outside at 3am that night watching the helicopter circle and wondering what was going on.

I think LEO's miss the point on a lot of this stuff and I'll tell you why. For one thing, a friend of mine's dad who is a LEO said the same thing about calling the cops right then and there. Here's why this doesn't work. You have to live next door to these idiots day in and day out. I have a very pretty and young fiance living with me. They might go after her if I'm not there. The police can't always be there to protect you. For a while I had her carrying a gun even without a CHL. It was that serious and I'd rather see her alive and in jail than dead and raped. I did call the police and met them down the street to make a report, but there were too many factors keeping me from calling them right there. The police also told me they couldn't do anything anyway unless they actually killed me (or tried to). Gee, thanks.

Our laws do NOT apply to these people. They can kill me, jump the border and never even face prosecution. You're not dealing with normal people. Not to mention that they were always drunk and extremely violent. The police would sometimes take them to jail for what they were doing to each other. I watched them bash out their own car's windows when they got angry. Seriously...their own car! Also...I can deal with one guy bothering me, but there was always between three to ten illegal guys over there all the time. These type of people will never approach you one on one. I doubt you've lived in a situation like this, but I'm sure you've seen plenty of them. The way it looks from the outside may be different from what the situation actually is. Regardless, the solution is not usually a simple one.

I don't know if this qualifies as "self defense" but here's my story anyway. A couple of years ago I bought a house in old East Dallas. This is in the area right around lowest Greenville avenue, known as a party spot by people in big D. The area is pretty sketchy, but I liked it. The bar patrons never really bothered me. What DID bother me was the illegal aliens from El Salvador living next door. Before I bought the house I had checked it out (for a month) and saw no problems. It was after a couple of months that they started partying in the backyard all the time. These old houses are really close to each other and you can hear everything in your house. So at about 5pm on Friday evening, the tejano music would be cranked up from a pickup truck in the backyard as loud as it could possibly go. These animals would sit around, get drunk and scream at the top of their lungs in Spanish until sometimes 5am. Then it would start back up on Saturday at 9am and go again until late in the night. Sunday too. Every week. I can hear this in EVERY room of my home.

Now, I said all that to let you know that after months of this, I REALLY hated these people with all of my heart. I wanted to kill them. After calling the cops numerous times, they saw me out in the yard walking my dog, a german shephard. We had been on partially friendly terms when I first moved in, so the owner of the house said "HEY! I WANT TO TALK TO YOU." I assumed this wouldn't be a friendly discussion. To make a long story short, they (by they I mean the guy and his thug brother in law that speaky no English) threatened to kill me if I called the cops on them again. The thug was an obvious psycho, and I knew he had pulled a bowie knife on one of the other guys that hung out there. He wanted me to fight him in the street. I'm thinking "you gotta be kiddin'" These people brought all of this on themselves, and they want to fight me. I had a Taurus .38 snubby tucked in my jeans the whole time. Between me and them was a small chain link fence. If they had jumped over I would have shot them. I was able to diffuse the situation a little, but it was pretty scary. Scary because a couple of times I thought about pulling the gun anyway since I was amped up and hated these people. I didn't see a weapon, but if they came over the fence, I can only assume they meant to hurt me. Those are grounds for being shot...especially on my own property. If I hadn't had the dog there, I'm pretty sure they would have tried something.

Even though this isn't a CHL story, it's still a story about self control. In the back of my mind, I still wish they would have come onto my property. I know that's not the best solution, but I held my cool. I soon after sold the house because I knew if I stayed there someone was going to be killed. I certainly didn't want it to be me or my fiance, so we left. It could have just as easily been one of them too, and I didn't want to end up in court as the racist white guy that decided to defend himself. There was another story about one of them trying to open my front door at about 1am one night and me bringing out a .12 gauge, but I'll leave that one for another time.

At any rate, it was very comforting to have the gun on me at that time. Did I need it? Not necessarily, but it helped me mentally knowing that I could have killed them and they were lucky I didn't. I still carry at home all the time and have for years. I carry when mowing the lawn, walking around the house, etc. I've already had a run in with my new hip hop blasting neighbors over here in the nice suburbs where I live now. It's not as bad, but I must have the worst luck in the world having to put up with these ghetto people all the time.