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TexasRifleman wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

TexasRifleman wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

TexasRifleman wrote:

zero4o3 wrote:

parabelum wrote:As someone mentioned before, I enjoyed H.E.B., but now, my money goes to Kroger, literally across the street.

is it fair to take it from that statement that your intention is to predominantly open carry? I only ask because HEB indicated that CC was welcome in their stores which would leave me thinking they are Pro 2A.

If given an equal option of "half pro 2A" or "full pro 2A" i'll default to full.

Except that the phrase "half pro 2A" is a meaningless creation of OCT and Carry Texas. It's a feeble attempt to cast aspersions when they are unwarranted. It's a classic OCT/CT tactic.

Chas.

I think you miss the point entirely. If open carry is my preferred method, why would I not do business with a company that allows me to do that?

Why would I go against my preferred carry method to reward a company that tells me I can't?

That makes no sense at all.

I didn't miss anything and your point was to falsely claim HEB is "half pro 21A." That's nothing but a shorthand version of "if you don't support everything I want, then you are anti-gun." It's the line OCT/Grisham/Carry Texas/Holcomb used during the failed campaign to kill licensed open-carry and pass unlicensed open-carry.

I couldn't care less where you shop; just don't denigrate a pro-gun company on our Forum.

Chas.

I simply disagree with you that they are completely pro gun. Is that a bannable offense?

Embalmo wrote:My HEBs here in Pflugerville are not posted 30.07 and I strongly predict that a yellow shirt will point to their blue TABC sign.

dru wrote:

WildBill wrote:

dru wrote:The people who protest OC (let's call them the Bloomberg/MDA crowd for brevity) are operating from a standpoint that they just don't want to *see* the pistol. My point is that its not a very reasonable or logical position to be focused on the external appearance when what really matters is the presence of the object in question.

Dru - I understand your point, but lumping in people who do not want OC in their business with "the Bloombery/MDA crowd" is not productive.
As you know many people on this forum have different opinions about open carry so it is not surprising that non-gun owners also have different beliefs.
You also probably realize that when it comes to the subject of guns, many people are not reasonable or logical in their thinking.
What is that old saying? "Out of Sight Out of Mind."
Happy New Year!

So, I was talking about the people who *protest* OC. HEB isn't protesting anything, nor are most people. About the only organized voice you will hear against OC in general, as a policy, are the Bloomberg/MDA crowd. That's why I called them out. A business can ban OC without being a part of that group and my comment wasn't directed toward them.

You also probably realize that when it comes to the subject of guns, many people are not reasonable or logical in their thinking.

Absolutely! Its a pet peeve of mine that people are irrational about so many things. I enjoy creating situations where they have to think critical about an issue....any issue, not just guns. In my experience, most people who actually critically think through the gun issue and get a proper exposure to guns are more likely to be okay with them. Hence my motivation for all this in the first place.

Happy New Year to you as well.

Its incredibly inconsistent to worry about how someone who is vetted is carrying the gun if you've already made the determination that they will be allowed to carry the gun in your store.

dru wrote:

gljjt wrote:

dru wrote:I may continue to shop there. But when I do I will do the most _______________________ concealed carry possible. I will have the biggest possible handgun and I will just lazily drape my shirt over it. It will be completely obvious.


Or, I will go where a shirt with a gigantic "concealed handgun" printed on the front with an arrow pointing to it.

This is the gun owners example we don't need. OCT mindset at its finest. Please reconsider. Remember. They don't have to ask you to leave. They can just call the police. the police don't have to ask you to leave first. The police can just charge you with the violation, albeit a class C. Assuming your holster meets OC requirements.

If HEB is posting a 30.07, then the police can't do anything if the gun is concealed. Remember, printing through a shirt is not considered open carry, so no charges could be made. The gun would actually have to be carried openly or they would need a 30.06 sign (if they wanted to get me on a class C)

Edit: By doing it in this fashion, I comply with the letter of the law, I can easily switch back to OC when I leave the store, and I'm not even being one of the people who stroll through the store with an AR slung over their back.

Oldgringo wrote:

gljjt wrote:

dru wrote:I may continue to shop there. But when I do I will do the most half-assed concealed carry possible. I will have the biggest possible handgun and I will just lazily drape my shirt over it. It will be completely obvious.


Or, I will go where a shirt with a gigantic "concealed handgun" printed on the front with an arrow pointing to it.

This is the gun owners example we don't need. OCT mindset at its finest. Please reconsider. Remember. They don't have to ask you to leave. They can just call the police. the police don't have to ask you to leave first. The police can just charge you with the violation, albeit a class C. Assuming your holster meets OC requirements.

gljjtt, er,....uhm,...did you leave out the word, "childish" on purpose?

dru wrote:I may continue to shop there. But when I do I will do the most _______________________ concealed carry possible. I will have the biggest possible handgun and I will just lazily drape my shirt over it. It will be completely obvious.


Or, I will go where a shirt with a gigantic "concealed handgun" printed on the front with an arrow pointing to it.