This ^^^^^^^ Rosenthal, Motorist Protection Act - its deja vu all over again.jmra wrote:Where some people see defeat in SB11 I think I might see a touch of brilliance. As we all know you never get everything you want in a bill, especially in a bill that makes significant changes in what has been previously viewed as untouchable. In this case by giving some form of local control universities are given just enough rope to hang themselves. If presidents defy the legislative intent we may well see changes to the bill in 2017 that would not have been possible without that defiance.
I also believe that The board of regents are not going to be the rubber stamp that everyone assumes they will be. They are after all appointed by the governor and approved by the legislature.
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- Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:25 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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- Thu May 28, 2015 8:27 pm
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jerry_r60 wrote:I'll step on a soap box for a minute....baseballguy2001 wrote:Mr. Cotton can't tell us the inside scoop on what's happening in Austin -- draw you own conclusion, I did.jmra wrote:So, is the owner of this forum "terribly mis-informed" or a "government lobbyist"? Can't wait for an answer to this one.
All my reps in Austin voted correctly in my view. They were part of the 19 who voted against RINO Speaker Strauss, and they all voted for the licensed open carry legislation. As voters we voted in the most conservative legislature in history, and it looks like as 2A supporters, we got hosed.
There are lots of new folks on here watching the legislature for the first time. Many have commented, myself included even though this is now the third session I've watched (not very many compared to others) that it's been very educational. What this admits is that I/we didn't really understand all the ins and outs of the process. We learn. It's interesting how adamant many of us are in our position and in the next breath admit that we are neophytes in how this all works. I get that we are frustrated and want an outcome but we should watch and learn and be cautious with our bravado.
I have seen Charles make a statement a few times that came to mind as I watched the debate yesterday. When the people that are usually very anti 2a/gun are the ones supporting what sounds good for us and/or, the ones who have been long time proven supporters are voting against it, that's a pretty good sign there is more to it than I/we are seeing on the surface and we should be thinking twice about our position. Our position is more than likely based on a lack of info or understanding. Doesn't mean always but a caution flag should be flying. I think the phrase I've seen is "when someone who is F rated is voting for it"....
....stepping off the box.
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- Wed May 27, 2015 2:55 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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I would like OC to pass with or without this amendment. If it becomes law without the amendment, I would suggest when stopped, be non-confrontational, show your ID, note the officers name/badge number. After the fact, do a records request to determine PC. Ask for every document, recording, dashcam, email related to your stop. If everyone did this every time, I think there will be fewer stops and this will become a non-issue or will be easily fixed.
In reality, with the exception of a few areas, early on, it won't be an issue at all. I think most LEOs will have the same attitude with OC as with CC. I.e., a non-issue.
In reality, with the exception of a few areas, early on, it won't be an issue at all. I think most LEOs will have the same attitude with OC as with CC. I.e., a non-issue.