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jmra wrote:

ShootDontTalk wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:[

Look y'all are going to have to deal with these guys. They are not going to just shut up and go away. So if you stick your fingers in your ears and say "y'all are crazies I'm not listening" then it is only going to get worse. If you engage them, you have a chance to influence them with more caution and wisdom.

I'm not going to get involved in this anymore. Suffice to say you are 100% right. I'm not sure why no one here thinks it worth the effort to meet face-to-face with these folks or do whatever is necessary to avert the coming disaster, but I have some suspicions. I hope I'm wrong. One thing is certain. That light ahead is not the end of the tunnel. Thank you for having the courage to state the obvious.

Chili's and Sonic are just the tip of the iceberg.

It is my understanding that numerous attempts have been made to reach out to these people in order to resolve this situation and come to a consensus about the best approach to getting OC passed. They simply refuse to budge in their stance. They are fanatics convinced that their way is the only way and and appear to be oblivious to the damage they are causing. In fact they seem to consider the results some kind of victory. They are either delusional or they have another agenda.

jmra wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:

nightmare69 wrote:Here is my thought on the calling ahead. If I owned a business and the OC called to ask I would say no. Businesses are open to make money, OC groups scare away customers and they leave out the door with my potential sale. Even though I support the 2a, I need money to keep my doors open.

Really? You are a restaurante, you have a semi-private patio/party room. You receive a request for a Tuesday evening (when OC dinners are in Richmond) reservation with 50-70 law abiding people coming and you are going to turn that $$ down based on the hope that other people will come in on a not so busy evening. That is your business decision, but not the one I would make.

jmra wrote: I would tell them no for the simple fact that I am pro 2A and their actions are detrimental to the cause - money wouldn't come into play in that decision at all.

This is why there will be more trouble in TX with the OCers. A reasonable compromise was made and rejected out of hand.

This is not a country where we get to tell people to shut it and sit down. This is a nation where dialog can will and must take place. If the 2nd amendment people do not come together in reasonable conversation then a house divided against itself will not stand. The anti's will win and we all lose.

It's not possible to have reasonable conversations with unreasonable people. Every organization with a proven track record of getting pro gun bills passed in TX has asked these people to stop or at least change their approach and still they refuse. Legislators who are fighting to promote passage of pro gun bills have asked them to stop intimidating people and they still refuse to stop. Business after business has asked them to stop so they go to the next business and the next business with the same result. What they are doing is the definition of insanity.
The fact is simple, if these groups do not stop there will not only be no chance of passing OC, we will be fighting a battle to stop anti gun legislation - a battle we wouldn't have to fight if it weren't for these idiots.