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by mr1337
Mon May 18, 2015 1:40 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB910/SB17 standoff
Replies: 122
Views: 32496

Re: HB910/SB17 standoff

safety1 wrote:If this happens, does HB910 go back to the House for a simple concurrence vote, up/down...bam,done off to Gov. Abbott's desk??
This is my understanding, yes. It goes to the House for a concurrence vote on a simple majority. Concurrence votes do not need to be scheduled. If the house concurs, off to Abbott. If not, it goes to a joint committee to work out the kinks.

I don't think it would have any issues getting the votes on the House floor for concurrence, even without the Dutton amendment.
by mr1337
Mon May 18, 2015 1:37 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB910/SB17 standoff
Replies: 122
Views: 32496

Re: HB910/SB17 standoff

safety1 wrote:
NotRPB wrote:cross post

‏Per> @chucklindell now50 seconds ago

#HB910 will be substituted to REMOVE House amendment banning police stops solely to check CHL for open carry, @EstesForTexas says. #txlege
Figured this was coming...and I'm ok with it. if you are not doing anything wrong, what does it matter?
Same argument for not consenting to a search of your home, or allowing the NSA to collect data without a warrant.

The "nothing to hide" argument.

I don't agree with removing the amendment, but I can't do anything about it. And it still results in a net gain for the 2nd Amendment. So if that's what has to happen to get it passed, so be it.
by mr1337
Wed May 13, 2015 2:37 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB910/SB17 standoff
Replies: 122
Views: 32496

Re: HB910/SB17 standoff

v7a wrote:While we wait for the children to play nice, some legal news from the 6th Circuit:

The Fourth Amendment and open carry of guns (where such open carry is legal)
While open-carry laws may put police officers (and some motorcyclists) in awkward situations from time to time, the Ohio legislature has decided its citizens may be entrusted with firearms on public streets. Ohio Rev. Code §§ 9.68, 2923.125. The Toledo Police Department has no authority to disregard this decision — not to mention the protections of the Fourth Amendment — by detaining every “gunman” who lawfully possesses a firearm. And it has long been clearly established that an officer needs evidence of criminality or dangerousness before he may detain and disarm a law-abiding citizen. We thus affirm the district court’s conclusion that, after reading the factual inferences in the record in Northrup’s favor, Officer Bright could not reasonably suspect that Northrup needed to be disarmed.
Wonder if the 5th Circuit has anything in the pipeline similar to this case.

Also, with that being said, it still doesn't address 4th Amendment protections in states where a license is needed to OC.
by mr1337
Fri May 08, 2015 1:51 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB910/SB17 standoff
Replies: 122
Views: 32496

Re: HB910/SB17 standoff

Love me some Mike Cargill. I try to give him my business whenever I can.
by mr1337
Tue May 05, 2015 6:18 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB910/SB17 standoff
Replies: 122
Views: 32496

Re: HB910/SB17 standoff

CJD wrote:
mr1337 wrote:SB11 and SB17 referred to Homeland Security & Public Safety

:hurry:

It's not HB910 with those really good amendments, but it's something!
They could amend 17 the same way, then hopefully the Senate would concur.
Let's hope they do!
by mr1337
Tue May 05, 2015 6:10 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB910/SB17 standoff
Replies: 122
Views: 32496

Re: HB910/SB17 standoff

SB11 and SB17 referred to Homeland Security & Public Safety

:hurry:

It's not HB910 with those really good amendments, but it's something!

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