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Jumping Frog wrote:Back to the original topic, Ohio and Texas signed a reciprocity agreement, effective today, so the OP can carry anywhere in Texas that a Texan CHL can carry by virtue of his using his Ohio "License to Carry a Concealed Handgun" (ignoring any FGFSZ issues).

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Great news for citizens of both states!

Now the only one we're missing that Utah has is WA.

I think another thing that Ohio is doing right is in the bill, they are required to keep financial data about costs associated with issuing CCW licenses so that in the future, they can bring the price of the license closer to the actual cost.

Can we get that here in Texas, please? I'm no expert, but I doubt it takes $140 to cover all costs associated with issuing a CHL.

The End wrote:Hey, guys. Thanks for all the responses. So just to be sure. From your replies it seams that carring in my car is ok as long as it's concealed. Would this apply to a car in my wife's name that I'm driving? What about a rental car? Also if I'm on her parents property and I go down to his range to shoot can I open carry (since I'm using it for a sporting purpose)? Does this apply to carrying while fishing in one of his ponds? Thanks again guys, Don

I think the best thing for you is to see if being at your parents' property constitutes the property being under your control. Another user mentioned having a house key as proof that the property is indeed under your control. I don't think this means that you exclusively or completely control the property, just that you have some control of it. If you were out there alone and would have the authority to ask someone to leave on behalf of your parents, I would argue that you are in control of the property. Again, not a lawyer, but I really don't think it's a huge thing. Especially on 270 acres, I'm assuming in rural Texas. You'd be hard pressed to find a Texas sheriff that doesn't support the 2nd Amendment rights of a law-abiding citizen. I know your goal is to understand and abide by the law. If you want to give yourself something to CYA, get your parents to write on a piece of paper: "The End is authorized control of the property at 12345 Main St, Somewhere, TX 99999" and date and sign it. Personally, I think that part is unnecessary, but it would provide you written proof in the completely unlikely event of law enforcement approaching you while on their property, and the even more unlikely event that the deputy would arrest you, the even more unlikely event that the local prosecutor would file charges, and the even more unlikely event that the judge wouldn't throw it out, and the even more unlikely event that you would actually be convicted.

A property being "under your control" is not defined in the Texas Penal Code. Thus, in the court of law, they will use a reasonable definition that would most benefit the accused (as opposed to most benefiting the prosecutor).

TL;DR: Carry on.

The End wrote:Ok, guys I need a little help. I'm a member of Ohio Carry Forums but thought I'd ask my questions here. I will be visiting my wife's dad and mom in Texas this month. I'm From Ohio and have a Ohio CHL. Every state on our route has reciprocity with Ohio, except Texas, so I have some questions. 1-Can a non-resident carry a loaded handgun in my vehicle on my person in Texas without a Texas CHL and if not, how do handguns need to be transported in a car? 2-Can I carry on my wife's parents property? It is private, away from town and they have like 270 acres. They don't care if I do or not but is it legal? They have a personal range set up where I can shoot on their land. If I can carry on their property can it be concealed or open carry? He also has 4 wheelers and Off-road vehicles. Can I carry on his property while driving those vehicles? Any help you could give me would be great. Thanks, Don

The End wrote: 1-Can a non-resident carry a loaded handgun in my vehicle on my person in Texas without a Texas CHL and if not, how do handguns need to be transported in a car?

Yes, non-residents can carry loaded handguns in their vehicle (or a vehicle under their control) without a Texas CHL, but it must be concealed. You can also carry while traveling, which should cover rest stops, gas stations, food, and hotel stays on your way there and back.

The End wrote: 2-Can I carry on my wife's parents property? It is private, away from town and they have like 270 acres. They don't care if I do or not but is it legal?

You can carry on your property and property under your control. If your parents deem the property to be under your control, then I would say you would be able to carry.

The End wrote: If I can carry on their property can it be concealed or open carry?

If the property is "under your control" then both Open Carry and Concealed Carry are permitted.

The End wrote: He also has 4 wheelers and Off-road vehicles. Can I carry on his property while driving those vehicles?

Again, if the property is "under your control" - yes.

(Please note this is not legal advice but is simply my interpretation of the law. However, Texas gives a lot of power to the property owner in this type of scenario.)