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by Glockster
Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:53 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Are the new 30.06 signs valid now, or not until 2016?
Replies: 31
Views: 8703

Re: Are the new 30.06 signs valid now, or not until 2016?

Skiprr wrote:
Glockster wrote:
Skiprr wrote:From those of us who have been around this environment for one or two decades--not months--trust me, the very same conversation comes up every time there is a legislative change.

The law is the law. An invalid posting is an invalid posting. Now, I'm not one to pull out a ruler and try to confirm letters on signage are at least one-inch and not 63/64ths. But I also don't concern myself with outdated 30.05 or "gunbuster" signs. And won't with outdated 30.06 signage come January.

Admittedly, OC is a different animal because it's all out there. I plan to OC very seldom, and perhaps only while at PSC. But the OP was about CC, and Charles gave him the definitive statement.
At the risk of not wanting to hijack the thread, interesting to know from a historical perspective! In the two years that I've been here this is my first go 'round. Have there been a lot of changes to the signage since the law got onto the books laying out the specific requirements?
By "the very same conversation" I did not specifically refer to signage, but to legislative change in general. The point was, the law is the law.

To my knowledge--though don't ding me if I'm wrong; I haven't done the research--there have been alterations to firearms laws, and other legislation affecting them, in almost every legislative session since 1995. Yet every year we see a new Topic started about consumption of alcohol while carrying. Every year we see a new Topic about carrying past a no-Beretta-symbol gun-buster sign. Every year we see conversations about church or hospital carry.

Mind you, questions and discourse are great; that's how we learn; that's much of why we're here. And until an AG opinion or case history precedent is established, some legislative language may be open to levels of interpretation.

But the wording of the signage requirements in 30.06 and 30.07 are specific, and Charles reinforced that. Someone can choose not to pass beyond an old 30.05 notice or an invalid 30.06 sign, and that's fine. Completely a personal preference. But that is a choice not required by law.
Sure, I get that the signage requirements are specific, and I have no interest in passing anything that is any kind of an indication that they don't want firearms past that point so I could care less if the sign might technically be invalid, I respect the intent of their having posted a sign. I was only curious as someone who hasn't been here long enough to have seen other changes to know how many times or how frequently you've gone through those changes. Thanks!
by Glockster
Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:58 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Are the new 30.06 signs valid now, or not until 2016?
Replies: 31
Views: 8703

Re: Are the new 30.06 signs valid now, or not until 2016?

Skiprr wrote:From those of us who have been around this environment for one or two decades--not months--trust me, the very same conversation comes up every time there is a legislative change.

The law is the law. An invalid posting is an invalid posting. Now, I'm not one to pull out a ruler and try to confirm letters on signage are at least one-inch and not 63/64ths. But I also don't concern myself with outdated 30.05 or "gunbuster" signs. And won't with outdated 30.06 signage come January.

Admittedly, OC is a different animal because it's all out there. I plan to OC very seldom, and perhaps only while at PSC. But the OP was about CC, and Charles gave him the definitive statement.
At the risk of not wanting to hijack the thread, interesting to know from a historical perspective! In the two years that I've been here this is my first go 'round. Have there been a lot of changes to the signage since the law got onto the books laying out the specific requirements?

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