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mojo84 wrote:

chuck j wrote:

txglock21 wrote:Let me throw another wrinkle into this...What if you are HALFWAY through eating your meal and are told to leave now? Would you get up and walk out without paying OR ask for a "doggy bag" and stay long enough to pay the check? I was taught stealing is wrong, but if they wouldn't let me finish what I was paying for, I feel I don't need to pay for something I was "promised". And, yes, I realize that most likely you will be asked to leave before it gets to that point. Just food for thought. Pardon the semi-pun.

Go to your vehicle ...........disarm .........return and enjoy your meal .

One could also just let the waiter know you don't believe you should have to pay and then leave.

Or, one could say, what if I untuck my shirt and conceal my weapon. Would that suffice?

I'm sure there are other valid options not mentioned.

The untucking of the shirt is a good idea, and one used in Virginia so often it was referred to as the Virginia Tuck. Used for arriving at any place that didn't allow open carry. Of course there also was the reverse process for when it was concealed but had to be OC to be in places that served alcohol (they don't have bars in Virginia).

chuck j wrote:

txglock21 wrote:Let me throw another wrinkle into this...What if you are HALFWAY through eating your meal and are told to leave now? Would you get up and walk out without paying OR ask for a "doggy bag" and stay long enough to pay the check? I was taught stealing is wrong, but if they wouldn't let me finish what I was paying for, I feel I don't need to pay for something I was "promised". And, yes, I realize that most likely you will be asked to leave before it gets to that point. Just food for thought. Pardon the semi-pun.

Go to your vehicle ...........disarm .........return and enjoy your meal .

That seems to be high risk for losing your weapon given that anyone within earshot inside knew you had a gun and were asked to remove it. So they know that it's out there in your car.

I've read several of these kind of threads but still find them lacking. Firstly, let me establish that if told to leave, I will do so. Secondly, I will not go to anyplace that does not want my business.

Okay, that out of the way, here's my issue - what bothers me to some degree is that these threads all sound like (sound like) that if I'm in a restaurant, for example, and then unexpectedly am asked to leave...that (sounds like) my options are leave or argue? That's it? What about saying something like sure I will absolutely leave but I'd appreciate it if I could also speak with the manager - is he/she available?

I've read through these threads and honestly don't recall that given as what someone might do. Instead it sounds like it always moves from some server asks you to leave and there is no attempt to clarify the situation and it is either leave or fight at risk of losing your license. I would rather politely state that I will comply and then also politely ask for that opportunity. I've found many times over the years that someone who thought they were speaking with authority, weren't at all and in fact the manager needed to know that.