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by ShootDontTalk
Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:50 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: WHITE HOUSE: OBAMA PREPARING MORE EXECUTIVE ACTIONS ON GUN CONTROL
Replies: 30
Views: 7755

Re: WHITE HOUSE: OBAMA PREPARING MORE EXECUTIVE ACTIONS ON GUN CONTROL

The Annoyed Man wrote: VMI77 and I have been having a sidebar conversation about this very sort of thing. He is more or less of the opinion that, in this scenario, the military would force Obama out and we'd go through a "restart". Normally, VMI77 and I are on the same wavelength. But I am pessimistic. Obama's administration has been very busy "retiring" old school field grade officers, and promoting those who are more compliant and amendable to the administration's social engineering goals. I would like to believe that the military could be depended on to restore the republic, and I certainly don't mean to insult anyone serving, but I am skeptical. Here's why.

Some illegal orders are just plain obvious. If a general orders soldiers under his command to simply eradicate all the children in an American town on the theory that nits grow to lice, it's a fair bet that most or all of those so ordered would refuse to carry out the order. Why? Because it is an obviously illegal order. But if a general commands troops under his command to arrest the President and take him into custody, that's a lot more vague. Who's the criminal? The general seeking to depose a President, or the President who is being deposed? Is the order legal, or illegal?

That's why I am skeptical that today's military would play a restorative role unless the necessity and the alternatives were so stark and clear that it was a no-brainer.
I agree. It certainly isn't a simple matter of voting. I first started voting in the late 1960's and have never, to the best of my memory, voted for a Democrat. If the current administration set aside elections, how would I vote? Elections no longer exist. I could vote 10,000 times and none of them would count. If the President set aside the election cycle, who would you vote for? So obviously voting cannot be the answer, IF such a thing were to happen.

I didn't used to be a pessimist. Boy how I wish I weren't one now. I agree with you 100% though. I don't think the military would do anything. The Justice Dept.? Are you kidding? Supreme Court? No. Toothless. Secret Service? No. In truth, I think there is only one group that would do anything. We The People.

My concern is not that the country will fracture. It is that we will experience a very ugly revolution. 600,000 died in the Civil War. If it happened today, it could be many times worse. I just don't want my kids to have to endure that.
by ShootDontTalk
Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:23 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: WHITE HOUSE: OBAMA PREPARING MORE EXECUTIVE ACTIONS ON GUN CONTROL
Replies: 30
Views: 7755

Re: WHITE HOUSE: OBAMA PREPARING MORE EXECUTIVE ACTIONS ON GUN CONTROL

JALLEN wrote:He can't just dream up stuff out of whole cloth, and if we let him, shame on us.
If you're volunteering to go arrest him, I'll be the first to step up and help. Otherwise, who exactly is going to stop him? Who is "WE"? He's been dreaming up some stuff that got people like Richard Nixon forced out of office. I just don't ever see this Congress actually doing anything. They might hold some more hearings though. That would be helpful. :roll:

For that matter, who would actually DO anything, even if he decided to suspend the next election cycle and remain in office?

I'm really serious about that question. Exactly who would have the moxie to do anything at all?

I fully admit that this is a terrible opinion of my government, but I don't think I'm alone.

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