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anygunanywhere wrote: I sacrificed 6 years of my life in service to this country defending it against all enemies both foreign and domestic and consider my oath to still be in effect. Since our country is currently under attack from within I consider it appropriate to fly the flag upside down, especially since your quote says that the flag represents the government and all its policies. You might agree with that but I do not.

Thanks for your input, but I am not dishonoring the flag or my country by doing so. The evil that is permeating this country through the actions of those who want to destroy it from the top down are dishonoring it.

Have a good day.

jmra wrote: I doubt you'll find it in any history books because the truth didn't serve the political agenda at the time nor does it now. The conflict between North and South was pure economics. The north had the established ports and had forced the south to do their trade through the North. The only way the south could conduct import/export trade without the north as a middleman was to undermine the tariffs established by the north. The north stepping in to stop the trade the south had established in its ports is what led to the south splitting off.
This became a major economic problem for the north because they were not only losing taxes but also were no longer able to charge to south marked up prices for foreign imports, not to mention the lost revenue of exporting goods from the south. If the south was allowed to continue this trade, industrial development of the south would ensue making much of the north economically irrelevant. You see, the north needed the south much more than the south needed the North. This is why had the south agreed to return to the union under the economic thumb of the north slavery would have been allowed to continue indefinitely. Of course with the influx of cheap Asian labor (actually cheaper than slave upkeep), slavery would have become a thing of the past eventually anyway.
So, why didn't either side cite economics as a reason for war? Because the general public wasn't willing to go to war with their brother over money. Both sides needed an ideal in order to garner support for their positions. For the north the rally call was the end of slavery, for the south it was states rights. But ultimately, it was all about the mighty dollar.

chuck j wrote:I came a bit late to this thread . The Confederate flag is part of my and many others history , it is history . I had relatives on both sides and there is no denying what 'is' . J W Westbrook was my great great grandfather , the article below was taken from a book written by Frank W. White Johnson. It is lengthy but interesting , I refuse to erase my family history and it certainly is not all bad . it is reality . I find no harm in the 'rebel' flag at this point in time , you would think that we would have moved beyond that by now .


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dale blanker wrote: You are supporting my point even though you completely missed it. No one is suggesting the civil war be forgotten but touting the Confederate Battle Flag and remembering the civil war with pride makes no sense. The civil war is a blot on the history of our great country that we should not forget but should recognize as a major disaster.

Maybe the movies "Gone With The Wind" and "Dances With Wolves" had too big an effect on me(?).

baldeagle wrote: The flag has a place. It's a symbol of heritage and pride and many other positive attributes. But it is also a symbol of hatred and racism to some.

dale blanker wrote:I'm totally baffled as to why anyone would want to tout the Confederate Battle Flag anyway. The Civil War is over at extremely high cost to both North and South. It seems to me that that Southern States should have been allowed to quit the Union but my guess is that they are much better off in it now. We should not forget history but how can there be pride or any satisfaction in remembering our Civil War???