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I understand what this guy is saying, however sending police onto church property on a Sunday morning to conduct a stop and frisk type op to discover armed "security" (after all concealed means concealed) would probably result in immediate calls for the mayor and city council to step down and might cost the city millions in legal fees.

If I can provide "security" for my family and other innocents when I'm not at church, I see no compelling reason why the state should be concerned with me doing it while at church - beyond the obvious $$$ interests of security firms. I don't think anyone could suggest that the reason for security at churches is to control traffic or impress anyone with silly badges and shirts. Only the unthinkable occurring in a crowded church would ever warrant the weapon anyway. Having successfully denied the means to prevent such a mass shooting, who in government should the people hold responsible?

Edit: I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who did a newspaper interview prior to conducting one of his seminars where I used to live in which he stated that, according to Texas law, a CHL holder was barred from carrying in a church at all. He got called on that publicly during the seminar. The results were as you might imagine.

jbarn wrote: Regardless of what they are called, if their role consist of any of the following licensing is required;

(1) prevent entry, larceny, vandalism, abuse, fire, or
trespass on private property;
(2) prevent, observe, or detect unauthorized activity
on private property;
(3) control, regulate, or direct the movement of the
public, whether by vehicle or otherwise, only to the extent and for
the time directly and specifically required to ensure the
protection of property;
(4) protect an individual from bodily harm including
through the use of a personal protection officer; or
(5) perform a function similar to a function listed in
this section.

If this is something that anyone in Texas ever contemplates enforcing, then, as my NYPD friends say, it needs to be repealed FORTHWITH. During the gasoline shortage of days past, I openly carried a 1911 and 4 extra mags to prevent all kinds of mischief on company property I was charged with managing. DPD had no problems with it - and we had to call them frequently.

I would expect anyone trying to enforce this on a church might encounter rather more resistance than they anticipate. Makes me want to legislatively slap more restrictions on private security firms.