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TomsTXCHL wrote:

jbarn wrote:

TomsTXCHL wrote:

asbandr wrote:I had a ruger lcp, but it hurt my hand after about 50 rounds

But apart from the qualifying test, when would you ever need (or want) to shoot 50 rounds with it?

To attain and maintain proficiency.

Well, of course. But that doesn't have to mean 50 rounds one-right-after-the-other does it.

We shoot a mag or two, let someone else shoot, visit etc. before getting on the line to shoot again. Never 50 rounds at a time--that's all I was reacting to.

I would further argue that to simulate a real-world encounter that it'd be better to shoot as cold as you can be anyway (meaning longish pauses between mags at the range), not to mention that indeed after some significant number of shots your hand is bound to get tired, and then how good is THAT re: proficiency?

Muscle memory is obtained after many, many repititions. Shooting a mag and resting diminishes that, depending on the time interval and intensity of training. When I go to shooting schools I use my carry gun. We often shoot 600 rounds in a couple of days. Would not want to do that with a gun that hurts. ;)

When I was a baby policemen, most officers carried .357 magnums with full house magnum ammo. At that time, we qualified for the department monthly. To save money, the Dept had us shoot .38 ammo. However, for our yearly state quals we had to use those full powered .357 rounds. Lots of folks who shot very high scores with the .38's saw those scores drop significantly with .357 magnums.

If the gun hurts to shoot you won't practice with it adequately, and you are more likely to flinch or jerk when you do shoot it.

TomsTXCHL wrote:

asbandr wrote:I had a ruger lcp, but it hurt my hand after about 50 rounds

But apart from the qualifying test, when would you ever need (or want) to shoot 50 rounds with it?

To attain and maintain proficiency.

Selcouth wrote:

jbarn wrote:

Selcouth wrote:Love my Keltec P3AT. Not one issue... Ever

My wife has a Bodyguard and it has had numerous FTF, FTE, and misfeeds. I personally can't stand the gun and think its junk. We have used numerous ammo brands with all the same results. Guess she got a bad one.

Does her BG do it when you shoot it?

What is a misfeed? You referring to a double feed?

Did you know S&W has a lifetime warranty?

Yes double feed. I thought maybe she was limpwrisitng it, so I thought I'd give it a try as well and was thoroughly disappointed when I had the same reoccurring issues. I realize they have a lifetime warranty, but it's just disheartening when my wife(new shooter) was excited to pick out her first gun(anniversary gift) and she is rewarded with constant issues. It's more disappointing when the gun is brand new and expectations are high especially with being a S&W.

While in the gun store I was crossing my fingers she would choose the P938 or P238, but she opted for the bodyguard.

We own a KAHR, Colt, Ruger, Keltec, and a 2 Sigs and this is the first time we have encountered any sort of gun problems.

Yeah, I understand. Send it to Smith. They'll make it right...

Selcouth wrote:Love my Keltec P3AT. Not one issue... Ever

My wife has a Bodyguard and it has had numerous FTF, FTE, and misfeeds. I personally can't stand the gun and think its junk. We have used numerous ammo brands with all the same results. Guess she got a bad one.

Does her BG do it when you shoot it?

What is a misfeed? You referring to a double feed?

Did you know S&W has a lifetime warranty?

Teamless wrote:P238 is a great gun
but the SW bodyguard is also a great gun to shoot
as others above have said, it has a longer pull, as you are truly pulling the hammer back when you pull the trigger

For pocket carry, both will work.
however for me, the preference is SW bodyguard, as it does not have an exposed hammer, which is something I dont want snagging in my pocket.

As another thought, if you don't mind the weight (and the cost!), my wife carries (sometimes) her Kimber Solo Stainless 9mm.
Width and length is really close to the SW bodyguard, and it is pocketable as well,... just a thought

I LOVE the Solo. But it just crawls up and out of my hand when I shoot it.

Excaliber wrote:

aaangel wrote:"build-quality." only one comes to mind- GLOCK 42

Nice gun and reportedly reliable like all Glocks.

However, if you're going to carry something in that size, a better choice would be to step up to one of the subcompact 9mm's.

I think that entirely depends on the shooter. For some, subcompacts (Glock calls the 26 a subcompact ) just have too much recoil. Even a J frame size .38 (not an airweight) works well for some.

I carry the Sig P238 pretty often in the summer. A couple of weeks ago I took it to the range to be sure I am still dialed in since the weather is warming up. I shot the below in rapid 2 and 3 shot drills from the holster at 7 and 10 yards. The upper chest shots were aimed there, the head shots aimed at the head. This little gun performs incredibly well, wouldn't you agree? I pulled a few to his chin, and on the chest shots got one slightly high, but that is 100% me, not the gun.

Between 50 and 70 rounds. Didn't count.