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I just scooped one up NIB at gunbroker.com for $349. I know that's more than if I put myself on a store's waiting list, but I'll have it in hand in a few days vs. who knows when if I wait for an order to come in.

Isn't competition and free enterprise great?

Everybody's trying to make a better gun than the other guy, and the consumer, as usual, is the big winner.

I'm gonna get on my local dealer's waiting list in a couple of days unless I see something on gunbroker that is not too far off the charts.

And FWIW, what holds for guns applies to pretty much everything else in life too. When have you ever seen a government monopoly improve a product or service? Anybody remember the high point of East German automotive development, the Trabant? It was a little two-stroke, smoke belching, underpowered, unreliable little piece of junk that people would save their money for years to buy, because it was all that they COULD buy. And right across the border you had people speaking the same language, with essentially the same resource base available to them (both human and material), and thanks to freedom and competition they were building Porches, BMW's, Audis, VW's, and Mercedes Benzes, which were (and still are) justly renowned as some of the best cars in the world.

I don't want to jack the thread, but just apply the same principles to education and health care. It's an eye opener.

The only problem I can find with the LCP is that they can't keep them in stores long enough for me to get my hands on one. I've got a P32, but would much prefer the 380 in essentially the same size package. And I figure Ruger quality & reliability is probably a step above Keltec. (But have you checked out the exploded drawing of the Ruger on their websire? It is amazingly similar to the P32.)

I've had two problems with my P32 so far. In one case the trigger transfer bar managed to somehow disengage itself from the hammer so it would not fully cock the gun. I managed to fix this on my own. The 2nd was when the extractor pin and spring managed to destroy themselves. Keltec sent me free replacements which I managed to install with only a little difficulty.

But I just keep it as a BUG so it's not a big deal.

The 380 would be for my son who recently got his CHL and who's mid-20's lifestyle demands something suitable for deep cover. I figure a Ruger might be a better bet.