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After not having my call returned yesterday, I called twice today to try and get a resolution. To me, this sounds like a shuck and jive but it just may be my experiences in Comal Co. that are tainting this.

Patricia from TABC San Antonio returned my call @ 13:00 today. I will try to represent what she told me as best I can. Note: If you look on the 30.06 website you will notice 2 addresses, one for Wurstfest, one for Wurstfest Assoc. Note they are both on Landa Park Rd.. In reality it's the same grounds.

Patricia told me that the Wurstfest Association has a renewable Blue license. However, each individual vendor has to apply for a temporary permit which is always Red. Since the Wurstfest Association is physically separate from Wurstfest (it's not but since they have different addresses TABC considers it to be so), The entire grounds is issued a Red sign.

I pointed out the confusion to conscientious chl owners who check the TABC website. She replied to always go by the posted sign. I did ask her if they had ever been witness to a establishment putting up the wrong sign, in a wrong place, etc... and that I would rather get my info from the TABC website.

Knowing how the state fair has Red license vendors display on the actual kiosk, I mentioned this to her and she said she had no idea about the state fair.

Looking forward to your sage advice. I don't think this could get any more confusing without conscious effort.

*she also told me that TABC only sends the applicable sign to each business, i.e. Blue sign for Blue license, Red for Red. This is not what I've heard.

Thanks for the welcome and the responses. Without hearing back from the TABC officer, this is what I'm forced to assume: The liquor license with a gun license code of blue is valid. Therefore they are displaying an incorrect sign. If the land used is private, they are still using an incorrect sign. From what I remember the land is leased from Landa Park which is not private land.

Knowing New Braunfels my concern/conspiracy theory is this: The Wurstfest Assoc. does not want firearms (legal or otherwise) on the property. Assuming it's not private property and since the TABC gun license is Blue, and assuming their statement about the local TABC officer assuring them they're in compliance, someone has given them a wink and a nod and let them display a Red sign (I make this assumption in review of previous posts dating back to 2011 with the same license granted and a Red sign displayed, even with complaints filed.). That is a theory, and I hope I'm wrong.

I asked a friend to take a pic of the Red sign this year just to be sure, but I think he got distracted by pork chops.

I've made a lot of assumptions here, I realize that. I'm confident in my logic about the first paragraph, the second is supposition. I hope TABC returns my call and clears that up. If so, I'll post it on here.

Again, thanks for the welcome and the responses.

This year ('13) the sign is still the same as last year: (51%). The TABC public query site shows a gun license of Blue. I spoke with the Ex. Director of Wurstfest, she informed me that they were in compliance according to the local TABC officer. She also said that regardless of licensing they would not permit firearms on the grounds, (also that she didn't understand how you can walk down the street with a rifle - just showing her view).

I called TABC and was told they would speak with the local officer and contact me tomorrow.

My CHL instructor told me that even if Wurstfest is wrong, displaying a 51% sign demonstrates their intent to keep firearms off of the grounds.

My response to all of this is: I thought the entire purpose of the 30.06, red, and blue signs was to ensure that chl holders weren't guessing about intent or whether a business derived over 51% from alcohol sales.