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MechAg94 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

saltydog452 wrote:OK, my bad. I don't know the difference with GCA 68, or the NFA of '34. I understand that the length issue was in the GCA '68.

The firearms are a Remington 870 and a Winchester lever action.

As long as they meet the overall and barrel length requirements they are legal.

Short-barreled rifles (SBRs)—this category includes any firearm with a buttstock and either a rifled barrel under 16" long or an overall length under 26". The overall length is measured with any folding or collapsing stocks in the extended position. The category also includes firearms which came from the factory with a buttstock that was later removed by a third party.

Short barreled shotguns (SBSs)—this category is defined similarly to SBRs, but the barrel must be under 18" or a minimum overall length under 26". and the barrel must be a smoothbore.

Do with them what you want.

I thought short barreled rifles/shotguns were also covered under the NFA of 1934. I thought a sawed off shotgun was the subject of that one lawsuit (Miller?).

They are. The NFA made them legal with the tax stamp. If the rifle or shotgun is shorter than the lengths given they are SBRs and SBSs and must be permitted under the tax stamp.

saltydog452 wrote:OK, my bad. I don't know the difference with GCA 68, or the NFA of '34. I understand that the length issue was in the GCA '68.

The firearms are a Remington 870 and a Winchester lever action.

As long as they meet the overall and barrel length requirements they are legal.

Short-barreled rifles (SBRs)—this category includes any firearm with a buttstock and either a rifled barrel under 16" long or an overall length under 26". The overall length is measured with any folding or collapsing stocks in the extended position. The category also includes firearms which came from the factory with a buttstock that was later removed by a third party.

Short barreled shotguns (SBSs)—this category is defined similarly to SBRs, but the barrel must be under 18" or a minimum overall length under 26". and the barrel must be a smoothbore.

Do with them what you want.

joe817 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote: Are you asking about full auto shoulder arms or the semi auto/pump/bolt action varieties too?

Good and valid question a.g.a.w.(forgive the abbreviation but your handle is too long to type. lol), but wouldn't a full auto shoulder arm come under the regulation of the National Firearms Act of 1934, instead of the GCA of 1968? I must admit my knowledge of full auto ownership is sorely lacking, but I've never had but a passing fantasy of owning one.

You are correct.

I did not fully understand salty dog's question.

The GCA of 1968 did not affect pre-1968 long arms. I own many pre-1968 long guns, some acquired from private individuals, some purchased from FFLs.

During my days as an FFL i do not recall any ATF rules on pre-1968 long guns.

The GCA of 1968 did put restrictions on imported military arms under a "sporting purpose" clause that applied to firearms imported after the law went into effect. There were also requirements for individual serial numbers, which not all imports had.

The main focus of the 1968 GCA was to establish the FFL system, and defined whom could purchase firearms. It states that private sales within a state borders do not have to go through FFLs but sales/transfers across state lines do. Thank the GCA for the form 4473s.

saltydog452 wrote:Were these pre GCA 68 factory manufactured, then legal, shoulder arms 'grandfathered in post GCA 68 and still legal to own?

If not, how can they be legally owned by the next of kin? Its unlikely that they were transferred from grand parent to parent and now to the current generation.

Thanks,

salty

Are you asking about full auto shoulder arms or the semi auto/pump/bolt action varieties too?