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You owe me a keyboard. That can of pressurized air just isn't getting the coffee out between the keys.jmra wrote:Would have happened that way in Boston/Watertown too if they hadn't already been subjugated.texanjoker wrote:in places like La Grange ( saw that comment) I would hope armed citizens would check their back yard and handle the problem.
Sheepdogs ain't worth spit once they've been snipped.
VMI77 wrote:anygunanywhere wrote:He probably would not last very long in La Grange.VMI77 wrote:
And we need to keep this in perspective...there are armed teenage murderers running about in every large US city. Geez, more people are probably killed over the weekend in Chicago than were killed in Boston. ONE 19 yo believed to be armed, and on the run, got a city shut down. The gang problem in LA is a far worse problem than one desperate teenager on the run, yet they're not shutting down LA and going house to house. This Boston episode sets a very dangerous precedent, which I don't at all doubt was part of the reason for the way the authorities responded. If one teenager is this much of a threat in Boston, then why not do the same for a murderous teen on the loose in Chicago, LA, New York, Houston, or La Grange?
Anygunanywhere
I put that in there just for you.
He probably would not last very long in La Grange.VMI77 wrote:
And we need to keep this in perspective...there are armed teenage murderers running about in every large US city. Geez, more people are probably killed over the weekend in Chicago than were killed in Boston. ONE 19 yo believed to be armed, and on the run, got a city shut down. The gang problem in LA is a far worse problem than one desperate teenager on the run, yet they're not shutting down LA and going house to house. This Boston episode sets a very dangerous precedent, which I don't at all doubt was part of the reason for the way the authorities responded. If one teenager is this much of a threat in Boston, then why not do the same for a murderous teen on the loose in Chicago, LA, New York, Houston, or La Grange?
VMI77 wrote:Wow. Just wow. I've seen the videos of people being pulled out of their homes at gun point, hands over their heads, while the cops yelled at them like they were criminals. There is a photo out there of an officer pointing his M4 at someone looking out their window. The video below, a TV station video, says they BROKE DOWN A DOOR and forced the cowering residents outside at gun point. That is what you're supporting? Even some of the cheerful slaves admitted they were scared and intimidated at being forced out of their homes at gun point. They ordered people to get away from their windows --that too was in one of the videos. On one video the guy says his neighbor went outside, refused to go inside, and was arrested and taken to jail. Can I prove it, no. But what difference does it make? Here's a 4th Amendment refresher:texanjoker wrote:Guess I will be the only one not afraid to post in disagreement. Are there any proven cases where somebody went outside and was arrested? I have not read about one. They asked people to stay inside and they did while they went house to house in a contained area looking for a terrorist believed to be armed with weapons and explosives. It obviously worked because the terrorist stayed put and they were able to apprehend him w/o anybody else being injured. Obviously the residents of Boston who lived through this don't have an issue with it due to the parades, ect they are throwing for the officers.
Am I secure in my home when law enforcement points a gun and me and orders me to leave my home? You're down with pointing guns at people holding babies? Do you place any limits on what orders you will follow? Would YOU break down my door under similar circumstances, point a gun at my wife and force her out of our home at gunpoint, without a warrant, without probable cause that she'd committed a crime, and try to pretend as they did here, to be in hot pursuit? The officers that participated in these tactics are helping the left kill our Republic and turn this country into a police state. Like another posted here, I too would be dead. No, I wouldn't have shot at police or displayed a weapon of any kind, but I would have refused their orders, I would not have left my home under my own power, and they would have had to drag, carry, or kill me in front of the TV cameras.The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
BTW, this de facto martial law wasn't just pulling people out of their homes at gun point, it included shutting down transportation and businesses, preventing people from going to work, and costing people millions of dollars in lost revenue. Just what is the difference between shutting down a city and going house to house at gun point to find one criminal versus doing the same thing in Chicago or Los Angeles to find a bunch of criminals? Why not use this tactic on the gang bangers in South LA? If some deranged lunatic is running around my city and I want to keep my business open that is my business --if I don't live in a police state. And if no one wants to patronize my business under such conditions, that's their business....or at least, that's the way it works in a free country. Hey, the people involved, many of them at least, are apparently fine with being treated like prisoners, and being "locked down" in their cells. Well, I"m not, and I think a lot other people posting here aren't either, and I'm not going to cheerily slip on my shackles to make it easier for law enforcement.
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The sheep were being rescued by the wolves.VMI77 wrote:anygunanywhere wrote:This was just an exercise, an excursion to see how far TPTB could push their way into trampling the Constitution. This was a trial run for the declaration of martial law.jmra wrote:How exactly did it fail? Do you actually believe the purpose of this exercise was to catch a 19 year old fugitive?
"Yesterday a major US city – perhaps as many as 1 million people – was put under martial law...And Bostonians cheered them for it. Some even called for a parade to honor the men who treated them like prisoners in their own homes."
I believe the people who engineered this constitutional heresy are celebrating a huge win. Now they know that they can fabricate news that will cause Americans to roll over and play dead while goons dressed in black come in and do whatever they wish.
I agree. It was a win for TPTB, a failure on the part of the peasants.
Anygunanywhere
Didn't you hear, according to the MSM, those people being run out of their homes at gunpoint were being "rescued."
This was just an exercise, an excursion to see how far TPTB could push their way into trampling the Constitution. This was a trial run for the declaration of martial law.jmra wrote:How exactly did it fail? Do you actually believe the purpose of this exercise was to catch a 19 year old fugitive?
"Yesterday a major US city – perhaps as many as 1 million people – was put under martial law...And Bostonians cheered them for it. Some even called for a parade to honor the men who treated them like prisoners in their own homes."
I believe the people who engineered this constitutional heresy are celebrating a huge win. Now they know that they can fabricate news that will cause Americans to roll over and play dead while goons dressed in black come in and do whatever they wish.