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Kythas wrote:

philip964 wrote:Betcha those BP workers wished they had been allowed to have an assault weapon.

Haven't checked into whether Algeria has banned assault weapons all together or whether assault weapons are permitted to be carried or owned by foreigners. But I betcha they were illegal for them to have. Plus even if they were allowed, probably no legal way for them to get them from the US to Algeria.

You can't carry in a refinery here in Texas. You can't even have a gun in your car at work if you work for a refinery.

philip964 wrote:Betcha those BP workers wished they had been allowed to have an assault weapon.

Haven't checked into whether Algeria has banned assault weapons all together or whether assault weapons are permitted to be carried or owned by foreigners. But I betcha they were illegal for them to have. Plus even if they were allowed, probably no legal way for them to get them from the US to Algeria.

Kythas wrote:

LSUTiger wrote: But also, we should not only be making valid but less meaningful arguments such as guns vs. cars etc. etc. Instead we should alway start off with making arguments that clearly state the real reason for why we need semiautomatic rifles with standard 30 rd magazines and why the 2nd Amendment exists at all. We need to have the ability to defend ourselves against tyranny (1. government-foreign or domestic, 2. criminals-self defense). To do that we need to have at least what the tyranical oppressors (military and police) have.

When I make this argument, I'm invariably countered with "Your AR-15 won't do you any good against a tank or a jet, so it's worthless anyway."

My counter to this is that they are apparently not paying attention to the difficulties we're having in Afghanistan, or had in Iraq, or had obviously missed the American History segment on Vietnam.