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jdhz28 wrote: You are assuming they will listen to reason, which will not happen. There are liberals on this board, they will argue their point over any subject that "could" happen but when something actually does happen because of their party affiliation...they don't have much to add to the topics. Case in point why trying to "win" them over will not work; look at the difference between the Tea Party rallies and the Occupy rallies, look at the difference in the debates on the news, who always is quick to smear someones character and call names? It isn't the right side of the isle. My point is, I believe the very FAR left are like the children that picked up their toys and went home because you didn't do what they said. It seems to be okay for them to make remarks about violent retaliation, but God forbid anyone else does it. It seems to be okay for them to "misremember" if that is even a word; had it been one from the right side that would have been "flip-flopping". It seems to be okay for them to "mis-speak" whereas anyone else would be a liar....sorry, I am tired of playing by their unbalanced rules, I do not wish to win over the hearts and minds of the people who are trying to rob me of what is mine. I think they should all go kick rocks....

Bitter_Clinger wrote:

cyphur wrote:

Bitter_Clinger wrote:This administration's aim is a central planning model akin to the Soviet Politburo. Romney tapped danced around this during the debates, but never came out and said it.

Too bad he didn't have the cajones to come out and call Obama a Socialist/Communist-wannabe when he had the chance. He probably would have garnered a few votes in the process.

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handog wrote:FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012
"Americans to be disarmed says Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Disarming the right to keep and bear arms
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who is a former Reagan Administration says The United States Of America IS A POLICE STATE and you cannot have citizens with THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS in a POLICE STATE. "

JANUARY 2, 2012
Obama to 'Quickly' Go for Gun Control
-the weekly Standard Jan 2nd


It's on!

I think that's a bit premature.

What specifically do you think is premature?

Saying that a second civil war is "on". I'm not saying that this administration couldn't lead us there, but this is all still just speculation about what might be in a bill, the first draft of which hasn't even been filed yet.

With all due respect, the Democrats overtly attempting to subvert the Constitution without going through the proper channels of change constitutes the appropriate shot across the bow to warrant saying "it's on".

If they were attempting an honest effort at repealing the Second Amendment through the 2/3 state vote, then I would say a civil war is premature. As it is they are using brute force and authoritarian tactics leading straight into tyranny. That, my friend, is an act of war on the people of the United States.

JALLEN wrote:Obama isn't going to do jack, nor can he. It will be Congress who will have sold us down the road, if it comes to that.

This is why we got rid of the King a long time ago, if memory serves.

The Congress has to stand up. It's their job and they wanted it! We have to keep reminding them that if they won't, we'll get someone who will.

OldCannon wrote:I've always been puzzled about the "UN" fears. That organization can't do squat, and if it came to blows, they would take months, if not years, to figure out what to do (aside from writing angry letters). Besides, they'd be too busy evacuating from New York to worry about "helping out"

Stupid wrote:While I do appreciate the tough talk, the history has proven that few if any would actually follow through their tough talks.

I truly wish we were different from the Brits and Australian but if the last ban was of any indication, I don't think so.

Stupid wrote:I highly doubt anything would happen. People will be more than happy to turn in their guns - look at England and Australia.