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speedsix wrote:...nope...just NOPE...I've been a Marine, been a cop, made dozens of felony arrests single-handed...pulled burglars out of a building 4 at a time, looooooooooooove wimmen, have taken a gun off someone in a restaurant without even drawing my weapon...this scenario is not about not caring, it's not about not wanting to do your part, it's not about being timid or afraid, not about not wanting to help a woman in distress...not about being a good citizen...
...it's about intervening in something that is none of our business, putting our health and our family's future security on the chopping block, for a corporation who, more often than not, FORBIDS their own employees to jump in and get physical with a shoplifter...nobody's life is in danger, we simply have an incompetent security weeble who's made a poor choice...and the extent of our help should be GIVEN THE FACTS AS THEY WERE POSTED to be a good witness...whatever she suspected he stole is not worth the consequences that could arise...

...If I applied the above post to a speeding motorist, or someone who ran through a yard and was fleeing...I'd be judged a fool for charging in and trying to pull him over...
...if it were a fistfight or family dispute, applying the above would obligate me to intervene...on WHO's behalf??? No way...not wise or prudent...

...if it were a major crime like robbery or rape...of course I would instinctively do what I'm capable of doing...but not for a shoplifting where the dollar value might not exceed the cost of the gas I'd burn going to court....the police won't even come out on cases below a certain dollar amount...why should you and I feel obligated to risk our bodies and financial futures???

...as the OP gave us the facts...I can't make Texas PC9:43 fit suspicion of theft where neither the security person nor I have seen any property...so I intervene and explain how I broke his arm or hurt his back because of a suspicion??? Nope...